Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell ➡️

I hear a fuller, and more natural bass response on the CMS 50's, when compared to the A7. They are flatter sounding, and more revealing in the bottom by a fair measure. I much prefer them to the previous A7 incarnate. I've heard them side by side numerous times in our control room. Of course, listening to them in our control room, with our equipment has nothing to do with your control room, and your equipment, but.....

It took me several months to really start appreciating the CMS50's for their highly impressive lower octave response [considering their size and power] and I really warmed up to using the monitors, once I was able to understand them better through working with them for an entire project. The results I feel have been excellent. I just really like them and I can't view them as compromised options at all. The CMS65's offer the similar depth and flatness thing but with more go-go juice, so the bottom is more solid and perhaps more forward/higher outputting.

The CMS sub is a pretty slamming design, as it brings extremely LOW coloration, and precise PRESENCE of low info. It is not a "bang bang" sub. When using it correctly it enables the feeling and presence of sub harmonic without obscuring anything. For me, and in our control room, the reason I use these small near fields is for translation to other similarly sized speakers, and I don't find it a complete necessity to use a sub, but I don't look at it the same I suppose. Certainly, the application at hand should be discussed, because there many other specific reasons to use a sub than just because the printed specification of small speakers is lacking extreme bottom octave resolution.

The great thing about a three piece speaker system like this, is you can start anywhere and see where it lands you.

Originally Posted by garryrobson ➡️

They sound like mini-Twins.

Originally Posted by skyform ➡️

Ok, i really have to decide now, im already thinking too long, lol.

So if i will buy the Sub now or in the future then i guess it's better to buy CMS 50 instead of 65 right?

It wouldn't matter if i use CMS 50 or 65 with Sub because i would have to set the high-pass on the CMS 50 or 65 to 90hz and the sub to 90hz so they would probably play the same, is that right?

Originally Posted by skyform ➡️

Ok, i really have to decide now, im already thinking too long, lol.

So if i will buy the Sub now or in the future then i guess it's better to buy CMS 50 instead of 65 right?

It wouldn't matter if i use CMS 50 or 65 with Sub because i would have to set the high-pass on the CMS 50 or 65 to 90hz and the sub to 90hz so they would probably play the same, is that right?

Originally Posted by skyform ➡️

Can somebody please answer on this.

Btw my room is 4.5m x 4.8m with a celling roof which goes up to 2.8m, and i have no room treatment, so really do i even need a sub for this room.

Im a bit used to a sub as i already use it on my old logitech speakers and i really miss a lot of bass with my Adam A7. Some people complain who have no room treatment and CMS65, that they have troubles with bass freqs, many say that CDM 50 are better for a room with no treatment but i don't see how a sub would work good in room with no treatment or better then CMS 65.

Originally Posted by phunk2 ➡️

Take home both pairs and try them. Every room is different. You wont find a better bass in this price range than on the 65s. But I would recommend that you take the time and fix a good treatment first. It aint pricey and it's so worth the difference.

Originally Posted by Jay M ➡️

I do feel like I need to have the CMS 50s very close to me. At more than 3 feet away they don't sound right. I don't know if that is the speaker or my room.

Originally Posted by henryoakley ➡️

Any news on this? Which did you go for in the end?

Originally Posted by metaBit ➡️

I'm trying to decide between the CMS50s and the CMS65s. I couldn't afford the sub for another couple years probably.

I produce mostly techno so while low end is important it may be less so than for perhaps a dub step producer...

My room is 13' x 11' with the ceiling 8' high at the back and 10' high at the front. I have my desk at the front end of the room (against one of the 11' wide walls under the 10' high ceiling). I currently have no treatment in the room though do plan to put work into that this next year.

Given that information does anyone have an opinion on which of these monitors I should would go with?

My concern with the CMS65s is that they may be too much for my small room and more than I would be able to use given that I have neighbours to consider.

My concern with the CMS50s is that they won't have enough low end to do accurate work in the bass frequencies.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by GYang ➡️

In this price range, nothing come even close to the combo.