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Old 30th April 2003
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What kinds of insturments and other noisemakers do you all keep around?

So, do you guys keep any type of instruments around the studio for your clients? If so, what? Do you rent them or are they included? Just curious.
Old 30th April 2003
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We've got a couple of teles, a strat, asst amps, a banjo, couple of Martin acoustics, and a P-Bass that clients can use, but most of the time they just bring their own stuff.

I do keep asst tambourines, maracas, sticks, washboard, etc laying around as rhythym toys...as well as the hose from an abandoned vaccum cleaner ... as well as a 12" speaker shipping box for 'special' brush rhythym needs... cheap but usefull...
Old 30th April 2003
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yeah ...i have quite a few instruments actually and all included when you rent the place.


pearl Maple drum kit.
Godin MIDI guitar
Ibanez bass
yamaha Acoustic guitar
SPD 11 drum pads.
Accordion
Melodica


Sh 101
Sh 02
Korg Delta
juno 106
juno 60
Alpha Juno
Jv 1080
Rhodes
Wurlitzer
Casio cz101
Korg prophecy
Korg tr Rack
Emu Sampler
novation bassstation
Welson Organ
S-50 retro sampler
Sherman Filter bank V2....lovely! heh
pc workstation X2
peavy, Marshall, carvin guitar amps.

All that stuff brings quite a few clients in actually ...
Old 30th April 2003
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If it's in there, it's included..
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Old 30th April 2003
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I keep quite a bit of noise makers around which are is included in the rental. I'm a drummer, so the studio is really geared towards getting the best drum sounds. I keep several kits and snares stacked up and use one set of hardware to allow quick and easy changes. In the studio, I keep a '64 maple Slingerland kit, a birch Premier kit, an old Ludwig kit and a DW kit; snares: 60's Slingerland COB snare, 40's Slingerland Radio King, Pearl Dennis Chambers model, several Ludwig snares and more shakers and tambs than I care to imagine (Never ever underestimate the power of a tambourine!). Also, tons of cymbals of varying vintage (the Zildjian A customs always sound best). Unless the drummer I am recording has something special or different, I usually tell them to leave their stuff at home.

Also have a full MIDI/sampler station with an Alesis QS8 and Akai cd3000, drum modules, drum machines, etc. For bass, I have a Music Man bass, ampeg SVT head and 4X10 (but almost always just go direct). Guitars: Strat, 2 Teles, 2 Les Pauls, Taylor acoustic, Takamine acoustic, Epiphone Casino, banjo, ukelele, lap steel. Amps: Orange combo, Fender Twin, Vox (little solid state practice amp), Fender Champ, Marshall combo. A huge box of pedals (just reach in and grab one!).

I'm usually the first to tell them that their sound is crap and stick one of my instruments in their hands, so it would be terribly unfair to then charge a rental fee on top of that.
Old 30th April 2003
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I don't really think of keyboards and drums as anything other than required studio kit, so the things that I consider fun noismakers may differ from other. I've got a Pearl kit, a bag of percussion toys, a couple of Rhodes', a Whirly, and 6 or 8 keyboard modules hooked up to the MIDI system. But tha't s all standard. On the other hand, the:

2 Tic-Tac basses
Baritone guitar
Archtop guitar
Electric Sitar
Baby Taylor acousic
Audioharp

and silly stuff like a Slide Whistle and a banjo that won't stay in tune fall into the noisemaker category.

And the personal gear that my wife and I own (electric and acoustic basses, acoustic guitars) don't really count as part of the studio kit, though we have let guys use them. We just don't keep them around FOR others to use.
Old 30th April 2003
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I've got:

Prs standard 24
Martin DXM acoustic
Old mexican strat with a really weird pickup config
Early 70's jazz bass
75 reissue jazz bass
warwick thumb bass
Music man sterling bass
rhodes stage 73
a couple of old toys/drum machines
octave pedal
a couple distortions
marshall mini amp(battery powered)
swr sm900 head
svt2pro head
swr big bertha 2X15
ampeg svt 8X10
Line 6 Pod
Old 30th April 2003
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Hey drummerman,

Are you single? heh thumbsup
Old 30th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by lflier
Hey drummerman,

Are you single?
Hey, Lee! Are you female or just flexible? Or perhaps living up to the gearslutz credo - "Will do anything for Gear!"
Old 30th April 2003
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Hey Lee,

I don't discriminate - male/female - doesn't matter. If you've got a neve sidecar and a couple of U47's or C12's, I'm single and available (I am definitely a gearslut!)
Old 30th April 2003
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LOL... well, I am female, and I love drummers. Especially if they have cool vintage gear (see 1952 Les Paul in my avatar). thumbsup

And uh... I have a Gretsch Broadkaster kit in my studio, which generally attracts a lot of drooling drummers. heh
Old 1st May 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by lflier
LOL... well, I am female, and I love drummers. Especially if they have cool vintage gear (see 1952 Les Paul in my avatar).
Is the '52 paul yours? Then I can be available (well, my wife might complain, but if I explained that it's a '52 Les Paul...)

I learned to play quitar on a '54 gold top - despite the fact that I play bass, I've always had a yearning for a guitar with that neck again.
Old 1st May 2003
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Dave check this out


it's a custom Gibson Baritone goldtop. 1 of a kind. I got to use this guitar on a record and it blew me away. It has a gibson logo, but it is actually a Roger Giffin(Gibson's master luthier)
Old 1st May 2003
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Yeah Dave, when I was a teenager I used to sit in sometimes with this bar band where one of the guitarists had a '54 gold top. He was kind enough to let me play it several times, which was actually really terrible because I knew then that I had to have one. And it took me quite a few years of searching to find one that I could afford. But, my baby has been with me since 1984. The way those early LP's play and the way those P-90's sound, just can't be beat. I have several other really cool guitars, but I still reach for the Les Paul 95% of the time. It was my only guitar for quite a few years and that was all right with me.
Old 1st May 2003
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1897 Steinway B

Yamaha S-90
Kurzweil PC-2x
Yamaha EX-5
Roland D50

A dozen or so synth modules from Roland, Korg, Oberheim, Waldorf, E-mu, etc.

(Yeah, you guessed it. I'm a keyboard player!)

Drum machines/modules from Alesis and Boss.

Timbales, bongos, and tons of small percussion.

Other noisemaker:

6 lb. Yorkshire Terrier named Zoe
Old 1st May 2003
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Quote:
I have a Gretsch Broadkaster kit in my studio, which generally attracts a lot of drooling drummers.
Ahh, the classic Gretsch sound. There is a store in Houston that has a 60's Gretsch kit in tangerine orange sparkle that I have had my eye on for years. Absolute mint condition. He won't let it go for cash...you have to trade him something better.....What could be better???
Old 1st May 2003
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Gretsch drum-set that only the "special" guests get to play.
Snares form Bison, Ludwig, Slingerland, Leedey and Ludwig, Premier and Pearl.
Tons of Zildjian cymbals (5 rides, 2 sets of hats, bunch of chrashes)--also for "special"guests.
Gon Bops congas
LP bongos
Tons of Percussion toys
Whirlitzer 200 electric piano
Hammond M3
Leslie 147
Blackface Bassman Head
Heathkit guitar amp
Marshall MKII
Mesa 2x12 cabinet
Aguliar 4x10 bass cabinet
Mesa SC2
'68 Flower Tele reissue
G&L ASAT
Epiphone Sorrento
Honer acoustic (it's actually the wife's but she lets me use it to make recordsthumbsup)
Strat

No extra charge for any of the above.
Old 1st May 2003
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Well, since my studio isn't really "for hire" anymore I'm not sure I belong in this game, but I do let anyone who convinces me to let them record here use the instruments, so here goes:
3 pianos (grand, upright & electric grand)
Hohner Clavinet D6
Roland SH-2000
ARP Odyssey (serial #002)
Hammond M2
Ensoniq Mirage, ESQ-1 & EPS
Rhodes MK80
Roland RD150
Casio CZ101
ElectroHarmonics MiniSynth
Alesis QS6, QS7 & QS8.1
Lynx LN1000 controller
AX7 controller
OB3 drawbar module
Yamaha VL70m & WX5 wind controller
Casio DH100 MIDI horn
Washburn acous.
Takamine PSF95 acous.
Tacoma Chief 6 string
Tacoma Papoose acous.
Tacoma dreadnaught
Tacoma Papoose elec.
Epi 1/2 scale elec. (LP style)
late 70s Gibson Marauder elec.
Custom built maple & black walnut 6 string elec.
'78 Fender Jazz bass
newer Mexican Fender Jazz fretless
Fender acoustic bass
D'Armond Ashbory bass (small, fretless, silicone strings)
congas, bongos, timbales, roto-toms, various hand drums, shakers, cowbells, etc.
most of a drumkit (mostly Remo, Zildjian, Paiste - missing a kick drum worthy of playing)
electronic drumkit (Tama & Pearl with Alesis DM5 module)
trombone
trumpet
digereedoo
Bb Fife
alto recorder
pennywhistle
slidewhistle
various harmonicas & ocarinas
glass flute
Saz (Turkish stringed dulcimerish sounding)
Er-Hu (Chinese stringed thing that looks like a violin mated with a banjo & a snake)
Tranr (nope, that's not a misspelling - Vietnamese relative of the Koto)
Winston electric plectrum banjo
Ovation mandolin

... I'm sure I forgot a few, but I don't feel like getting up to look right now. We do have some interesting jam sessions.

Scott
Old 1st May 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by lflier
Yeah Dave, when I was a teenager I used to sit in sometimes with this bar band where one of the guitarists had a '54 gold top. He was kind enough to let me play it several times, which was actually really terrible because I knew then that I had to have one. And it took me quite a few years of searching to find one that I could afford. But, my baby has been with me since 1984. The way those early LP's play and the way those P-90's sound, just can't be beat. I have several other really cool guitars, but I still reach for the Les Paul 95% of the time. It was my only guitar for quite a few years and that was all right with me.
It really is a most excellent guitar - unlike most instruments, the early 50's pauls seemed to WANT you to play them. There's a certain vibrato that you can't do on any other guitar. And since the necks changed in 1956, the later onces simply don't do it for me. I'm jealous. There are actually only two other guitars I feel as stongly about as I do the early 50's Les Pauls, and my Dad owns both of them -
A blonde 1964 Gibson Super 400 CES and a 1968 Tobacco Sunburst Johnny Smith. I'm still trying to come up with the money to buy them.
Old 1st May 2003
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Since it's my personal studio, all of my gear is available for use by those I choose to record. This includes a variety of guitars, couple of Les Pauls, strat 12, Ric 12, JJ Baritone and Elctric Sitar, etc. Also a few different basses, incuding Kramer 8 string and the usual Fenders and Ric. Some keyboards, my drums and EDrums and a wide range of percussion toys. Oh yeah, couple of Mesa amps, a marshall, a JC75, and bass amps as well.
Old 1st May 2003
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🎧 15 years
Drum heads

I have a bunch of nice instruments around also and I don't charge people to use them.

I was wondering how often you guys change the drumheads on your studio kits. It is really expensive to change the heads on the whole kit. Do you guys have people bring in new heads or just build the cost into the daily price at the studio?


Thadd La Rue
BlackCat Studios
Old 1st May 2003
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Re: Drum heads

Quote:
Originally posted by thaddius13

I was wondering how often you guys change the drumheads on your studio kits. It is really expensive to change the heads on the whole kit. Do you guys have people bring in new heads or just build the cost into the daily price at the studio?

The top tom heads here tend to get changed every couple of months, but the guys who usually use the drums don't trash them. The kick only gets changed out when it gets trashed (I think I've only changed the head on the kick about 3 times in the last five years).

And if I notice or if I'm told by one of the drummers that the heads are trashed, they get changed.
Old 2nd May 2003
  #23
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🎧 15 years
charges

Do you charge them for the new heads?

Thadd La Rue
BlackCat Studios
Old 2nd May 2003
  #24
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I change the heads when I start to notice they don't sound right. How frequently this is, depends on how much use they get, but I can tell when they're starting to go. Average is probably every 4 months. The kick drum head usually lasts longer than the others, and often the snare head has to be replaced more frequently.

And no, I don't charge for new heads - who would I charge? The heads get worn out by several different drummers. It's not the individual drummer's fault if he happens to be the last one to wear out a head. I consider it part of "studio maintenance costs." The amount of hassle it saves and the difference it makes in the sound, to have good heads on the drums at all times, is well worth a little extra dough.
Old 2nd May 2003
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Drum-set is my main instrument these days. I play my drums more than anyone does, so I pay for the heads. I still get to use the write-off that way too.
Old 2nd May 2003
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Some Stuff

A Pearl kit with cymbals.

A selection of guitars that the average demo guy probably owns, but rarely uses...this helps keep his cartage hassle to a minimum:

High strung (Nashville tuning) acoustic

Martin backpacker ....banjoesque at times

Jerry Jones Tic Tac ....six string bass

Danelectro w/wound G string...rhythm specialist

Danelectro Longhorn bass....does not sound like a Fender or Sadowsky

Korean-made Gretsch Electromatic....hey, it's Gretsch-y!

Yamaha classical

GIbson L-5 George Gobel w/flatwounds....flatwounds,baby.

Gibson ES-350T w/Bigsby....only a Bigsby is good enough

Fender Japan Esquire

Fender Mexico Strat w/EMGs and Gilmour controls

'67 Deluxe Reverb

'68 Vox Cambridge solid state

Vox Pathfinder...secret weapon..try it through a 4x12...yikes!

Mandolin

Dobro

Lap Steel


Tom Spaulding
Smash Recording
Nashville, TN
Old 2nd May 2003
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Re: charges

Quote:
Originally posted by thaddius13
Do you charge them for the new heads?
Well, I give my main drummer a little extra when he does kit maintenance, including changing the heads. Since he's an endorser, the heads usually don't cost me anything. And if I do get a bill, it's usually not that buch (certainly under $50).
Old 2nd May 2003
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I tell them to bring new heads with them and I specify which ones. I've gone so far as to call the store and have them put the right ones aside, then send the drummer, roadie, whatever to the store. Otherwise, you'll get some jackass who brings back a whole set of remo pinstripes (2 layers) b/c he likes the sound....until you record them and they sound like wet cardboard boxes. I also make them get new heads for the top and bottom and usually 2 sets (coated ambassadors and clear ambassadors for the top - clear ambassadors and diplomats for the bottom(they go dead too)). Usually no kick heads (don't touch it!!! its just right - maybe change them 2x per year).

I keep all the heads even if not used. I usually knock an hour or 2 off the time for them (we spend that much time changing heads anyway). I'm pretty rediculously anal about the drum sounds and change heads regularly for different sounds and just b/c they go dead (just like guitar strings - who wants to record a beautiful Taylor or Martin acoustic with dull, crusty strings? - drums are no different). Also, this way, I get a pretty nice supply of heads.

Be careful before you go changing all the heads though. If you or the drummer aren't very good at tuning a kit, you can be there for hours and hours and end up getting a much worse sound.
Old 3rd May 2003
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Thanks

Thanks for all the answers everyone.

Thadd La Rue
BlackCat Studios
Old 3rd May 2003
  #30
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Quote:
Originally posted by drummerman15

Be careful before you go changing all the heads though. If you or the drummer aren't very good at tuning a kit, you can be there for hours and hours and end up getting a much worse sound.
And that's the reason I let my regular drummers do all of the kit maintenance - less than 20 minutes from removing the first tom fromthe stand to rolling tape with new, tuned heads.
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