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got a pssible steal on a Manely Mssive Passive, any experiences?
Old 25th July 2002
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got a pssible steal on a Manely Mssive Passive, any experiences?

We've got an opportunity to pick up a Massive Passive at a great price and are thinking we'd use it as eq on insert for a few flavors of mic pre's that are without...and whatever else for that matter. any experiences with this box would be appreciated. craig
Old 25th July 2002
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Jump at it!

It is pretty damn fantastic....

Old 25th July 2002
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naa, don't buy it, it's ugly, just get me the phone number of the people selling itheh yuktyyrollz
Old 25th July 2002
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Ask for the serial number, then check it against a stolen gear hot list like:

http://www.empire.net/~wozmak/thelist.html

Stolen gear will get you no where even if it is cheap. tut

If it checks out legit, pounce on it like a cat on a ball of string.
Old 26th July 2002
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I love mine. You can't mess up with it.
Buy it today and you'll mix different tomorrowrollz
JC
Old 26th July 2002
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Mine goes on every mix I do...great box. You won't go wrong buying one IMO.
Old 26th July 2002
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Guess I'll be the only guy with anything even remotely non-positive to say...

1-As soon as signal runs through it - even in bypass - it colors the sound. Not cool to me, should have relays or something...

2-If your clients are picky (aka - why it shouldn't be used in mastering) - just try to get a recall sounding the same. Band interaction is one of it's strong points, but also one of it's weaknesses. If contemplating strapping it across the stereo buss, think hard...

It's a great sounding EQ, but not for mastering. Also, if you do a lot of recalls on your mixes, give it a second thought...
Old 26th July 2002
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Heyya Brad,
Different tools for different jobs. They make a mastering version with detentes etc....
I've used it to master and had clients fall over
because they were shocked at how much their mixes could be improved. These were national guys with Grammys. You're right about recall. If you use the standard version (which I prefer) you have to write every move down. Or....use the tc6000 and store every move but have a more 'clinical' sound.
I've seen them in a lot of high end mastering only suites.
peace,
jc
Old 27th July 2002
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I'll post some remotely negative things about my experience with the massive passive:

1. Too many knobs. I never used all 6 bands at once. I can't imagine ever using all 6 at once. Why do we have to pay for such overkill? 2 or 3 bands are fine.

2. The knobs stick out really far. Further than anything else in the rack.


Positive things:

1. I liked it for tracking just about anything.

2. After using it 6 months, I sold it on ebay for $10 less than what I paid when I bought it brand new!!!
dfegad
Old 28th July 2002
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While I'm not really a 'knob' guy, I have to admit that once in awhile it's nice to have a set of knobs that stick out really far. Keep in mind that on the Massive Passive, the knobs are all natural
which (to my way of thinking) only adds to the attraction and lends further justification to the use of the word 'massive' in the name of this box.
chap
Old 28th July 2002
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In the short while that I have had my Massive Passive, great improvements have been made on almost all my material.

In the 2 buss mix, I usually just have the material running through, however I would be interested to hear how some of you use the Massive for mixes! Do you use the bands, or just run it through.

Also, what is the difference between the regular version and the Mastering version? Can a mode be gotten?

The knobs are big, but I think if you observe the rest of the Manley gear, most have those chunky knobs.
Old 29th July 2002
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Well, I pick it up (Massive Passive) tommorow morning. Mic pre's are really more of a necessity for us but the deal is to good to pass up (i've been told) the plans are to pick up a few flavors of mic pre (sans eq) and patch in the M.Passive.

Any suggestions on pre's much appreciated. as it stands we've got Avalon 737s and the pre's in the Control 24 (blah) I've got acsess to test drive as follows: UA 2-610, True systems Analog 2 ch (new) , DBX 786, Summit (various, but looking forward to the half rack unit coming out) Vintech x 73, Isa 110,
Any other suggestions would be appreciated, I think we can rent a few other flavors for the weekend as well.
We'd be happy with 10 channels of various flavors, maybe bought in stereo pairs (two mono....) We're tracking to PTools with RADAR on the horizon. thanks for any thoughts. Craig
Old 29th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by cajonezzz
Any suggestions on pre's much appreciated.
definitely check out the Groove Tubes VIPRE
Old 29th July 2002
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Thr Vipre is great sounding and flexible (just don't plan on taking it camping in your backpack.
It could be a workout tool though.)
I second the Vipre motion.
chap
Old 29th July 2002
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I have a question about the Vipre... it seems like it used to list for much less $2100 I believe now it list for 3000 I think. So did these origonally street for much less than they go for now? Also is there any difference between the ones manufactured during the Alesis distribution deal and now? I am thinking about getting one used.

Thanks
Old 29th July 2002
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I have #12. The only difference is that the first 20 did not have a backlit meter and those of us that got them paid full price.
Current street price is 23-24k depending where you get it. It does a LOT of things well.
Old 29th July 2002
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that's $2300 to $2400
Old 29th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by etherize
I have a question about the Vipre... it seems like it used to list for much less $2100 I believe now it list for 3000 I think. So did these origonally street for much less than they go for now?
That's not uncommon, and there could be any number of reasons behind that sort of price increase. The manufacturer could have underestimated the cost of building the gear (Remember the Manley post from a week or so back), especially the hidden costs of advertising, rent, utilities, etc., component prices could have gone up, or they could have found out or how much it really costs to hire someone to help build it, they could have had an introductory price (I bought my Purple Audio Boxes for $1500 - an AES show special), inflationary factors may have entered into the pickture, or prices were raised simply because they COULD be raised.
Old 29th July 2002
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Originally posted by Dave Martin
...or prices were raised simply because they COULD be raised.
There it is. And if enough professionals think it's a cool box, and they've just got to have one, they'll raise the price again.
Old 4th August 2002
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Well I picked up the Masive Passive today and had a chance to run some stuff viz PTools through it. Gorgeous, and though I know it's an overused term...musical. Picked it up "brand new used" at guitar Center (yuk) in San Diego for 2500. bucks. Next up are 3 or four flavors of mic pre and a couple really good compressors. I put $$ down on the new little Summit limiting amp as well. Any suggestions on the Pre's and compressors would be appreciated. We know that a couple Distressors are a definate as they are often requested. But for that very special vocal chain......Manley, Cranesong, DBX blue?? Thanks, Craig
Old 4th August 2002
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As far as the Vipre are there any difference between the Alesis Vipre's and the GrooveTubes one? Perhaps this would explain the price diffence as well.



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Old 4th August 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by etherize
As far as the Vipre are there any difference between the Alesis Vipre's and the GrooveTubes one? Perhaps this would explain the price diffence as well.



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Alesis probably could massproduce the VIPRE cheaper than GrooveTubes. As far as I know a lot of the assembly is done in California. The difference between the old an new VIPREs is, the new ones have lighted VU meters.
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