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Anyone still ducking bass behind the kick?
Old 7th February 2009
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Anyone still ducking bass behind the kick?

Just wondering if there are any new and groovy ways to do this. Also interested to hear thoughts from those of you who have tried this but don't care too much for it. I use this method sometimes, but have never felt convinced it made the music any "better"....
Old 7th February 2009
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I do it all the time in dance tracks to make the song "breath". I also do it in rock songs to give the kick it's own little space in the mix.
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I do it all the time, I only go for real pumping on those discoish electronica tunes, though. Would hate to not have the option, it glues stuff well when used moderatly.
Old 8th February 2009 | Show parent
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OK, but are you changing the way you're doing it compared to say , a few years ago? Maybe using more plugins? Newer plugins??
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Hmmmm........ anyone ever hear of the concept called masking?

Shouldn't the bass and kick parts kind of compliment each other and work together?
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As above - I use it for pumping house etc, but for other stuff ( eg pop / rock ) good arrangement & conventional eq / dynamics should take care of the low end - I only use it if there's a real problem.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbbubba ➑️
Hmmmm........ anyone ever hear of the concept called masking?

Shouldn't the bass and kick parts kind of compliment each other and work together?
For house/dance music the pumping effect is done as an effect, sometimes with a cheaper dirty compressor, but yeah! Normally you're right. With that kind of music it's not just the bass that gets ducked but other tracks as well. You can especially hear it in the hats.

I've heard the pumping dance effect on some recent top 40 pop tunes so I think it has made its way into the mainstream. Again though, this is something different than ducking the bass a little to try to make it 'fit' better with the kick.

Plugins work ok but I would take even a cheaper analog compressor for this effect over them. Problem with plugins is when you want to duck the signal hard enough and with a reasonably fast attack and release, they will zipper, some worse than others.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbbubba ➑️
Hmmmm........ anyone ever hear of the concept called masking?

Shouldn't the bass and kick parts kind of compliment each other and work together?
They do... as long as you gate the bass compression from the kick :-)
Old 8th February 2009 | Show parent
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What sort of cheap analog compressor is best for this task? Would my distressor, 1968ME, or MC77 be any good at this? What about RNC or RNLA?

I'm just curious why "cheap" would be the preference for this....
Old 16th February 2009 | Show parent
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I am very intrested as well in what kind of compressors do the job!

looking for an analog compressor at the moment.

any good advice?

I have posted another thread just before i saw this one. Damn!

grtz,

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