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S's that whistle a little. Whatcha using?
Old 6th February 2009
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S's that whistle a little. Whatcha using?

It's a very annoying sound and a PITA!

Any tried and true methods or processors?

Me tired of surgery
Old 6th February 2009
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Different mic? Learn how to sing/speak? De-Esser?

Neil
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Keep the 90 year-olds out of your studio?
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Keep the 90 year-olds out of your studio?


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LOL, yup, that's it.

Mic off access helps a lot when I'm cutting it, but I mix more than record and I've got me a rough one right now. It doesn't happen often, but damn
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IΒ΄m using the derresser. works pretty good.
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Same **** here

I tried several methods...

Massey De esser
Sonnox De Esser
Sonnox Compressor using the side chain as a de esser
MCDSP multiband compressor
Digi de esser

Fafter many hours trying different things I finally went in a just gained down many of the esses... did the breaths while I was in there anyway...

took less time than actually messing with plug ins all day... If something is clear cut and the freq is basically the same them some of these will work but mine had a high pitched whistle happening at some essses and normal esses and some lower esses, mid rangy...

bAsically the editing and sonnox dynamics (2 of them) and then some MCDSP multi band compression dialed it all in. . but it was mostly the gain on the esses that brought them back into context and then the others were uses less and therefore sounded better...

ALthough I just completed this afternoon. . we'll see how it wounds tomorrow. . . hmmmmm, I hate to think...
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Can it be edited out? Find another "S" somewhere else and edit it in there.

Ooops, just noticed that you did edit. Sorry.
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If you need to decrease sibilance in a singer try some of the following:

1.) Make them put a little bit of gum behind their top front teeth.

2.) Position the mic above or below their mouth, angled a bit. Mic position can lessen esses.

3.) Use a mic with a dip around 7 khz, which is where a lot of ess's happen.

4.) Use a desser. Religiously.

Do a little bit of all the above and essyness won't be a problem.
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try a deesser between 7.2k and 9.7k...
or try waves c1-Sc
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I tried several methods...

after many hours trying different things I finally went in a just gained down many of the esses... did the breaths while I was in there anyway...
This works the best for me as well..
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dental work

Maybe $2500 of dental work before the next session?

I'd go for separate and gain down, or replace with a "good" S sound if you really need to in certain spots.

Sounds like a LOT of work though.
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Thnx for all the tips fellas but i'm down and use all the above conserning de-essing.

it's de-whistling I need. See the above youtube thingy.

That Sonnox de-esser and level rides looks like the ticket though
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Thnx for all the tips fellas but i'm down and use all the above conserning de-essing.

it's de-whistling I need. See the above youtube thingy.

That Sonnox de-esser and level rides looks like the ticket though
a very narrow/deep notch at around 2-3.5KHz usually does the trick. I use Filterbank's B1 plugin as an audiosuite just on the offending whistle. You have to tune it to the whistle's frequency.
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I vote for leaving a couple of them in there. Find the ones that "work" and leave them. Little "intimacies" and real world sounds like that can breathe more life into a recording than their half-second duration would have you believe.

I love hearing that stuff when its done right.

Also, the whistling "S" isn't something that can be easily de-essed...

I'd vote for trying a DerrEsser if you've got a 500-frame. Awesome tool that will save you way more than just this once.
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