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Old 4th February 2009
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NOFX - Punk In Drublic - Samples ?

Do they uses drum samples on NOFX albums ?
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I know there are records they did not (Ribbed) and albums that they did for sure (Errorism), but there are a few that I have wondered about as well. I've seen them live a few times and smelly is a HELL of a drummer, but he gets a little quiet in the 'butt-****-titty-****' (Fat mike's term. not mine) parts. He was pretty drunk the last time I saw them. He also plays on OC drums that sound amaaazzzinngg. I could see them not using samples, but the drums on their records always sound so perfect it seems impossible not to be sampled. I don't know. I'm rambling. I'd like to know the answer here too.

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i would say for punk in drublic no. more recent albums; most likely.
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Most of those band seem to be drum replaced, but I don't know sure sure.

One thing I'd like to know is how they achieve such bright and clear guitars and bass tone?

It seems to me that in order to get a sound like that I got to boost a ****load of highs...
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Most of those band seem to be drum replaced, but I don't know sure sure.

One thing I'd like to know is how they achieve such bright and clear guitars and bass tone?

It seems to me that in order to get a sound like that I got to boost a ****load of highs...
Yep. Lots of high end.
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NOFX has used very non organic drum samples on their last 4 or 5 records. I have no idea why, but Mike seems to like the whole cheap 80's drum machine sound. They don't really bother to program them to be believable either. I guess it's what they like.
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I can't speak definitively about that record, but I know around that time period a LOT of pop punk bands were using triggered kick drum and snare sounds to either replace or blend with the recorded drums. I haven't listend to Punk in Drublic in a long time, but I can see how there would be some triggered samples going on.
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Well if you saw Erik Sandin drunk it would have had to be before 1992, dude's been completely clean since then. Great drummer, but the recordings are too perfect. The very slick sound to NOFX records to me sounds like a combination of the sampled drum hits, Mesa heads at their best, and incredibly tight performances [a la Ryan Greene's production.] I don't know how they get as solid of bass tones as they get with some of the goofy things Mike plays.
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I bet theres samples on Punk In Drublic . It sounds too perfect . I want confirmation though.............
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Most of those band seem to be drum replaced, but I don't know sure sure.
In most cases they are not replaced. The original sounds are augmented with samples.
This has been going on for years.
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NOFX's (Ryan Greene's) sound has probably shaped my taste more than any other sound and from YEARS of listening to them between the ages of 13-18 (and now but less so). I personally think Heavy Petting Zoo and So Long... are their best.

Back on point, to my ears it is DEFINITELY NOT sample replacement. Reinforcement/augmentation very probably. If you listen really carefully the kick is anything but consistent but I guess there's just so much top on it that the attack sounds it. Lots of Distressors on their records too I think. Apparently Punk In Drublic's guitar sound saw a lot of POD usage. I think it sounds the most ridiculous of their albums but there's something very likeable about it.

It's a shame they got **** and I actually don't like Mr Greene's more recent work. Anyone heard No Use For A Name's "Hard Roack Bottom"? Great pop-punk album but my God the quantization/samples/autotune on that album are HORRENDOUS!
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Apparently Punk In Drublic's guitar sound saw a lot of POD usage.
I suppose that POD did not exist in 1994... maybe i'm wrong.
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It's a shame they got **** and I actually don't like Mr Greene's more recent work. Anyone heard No Use For A Name's "Hard Roack Bottom"? Great pop-punk album but my God the quantization/samples/autotune on that album are HORRENDOUS!
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Originally Posted by dangoudie ➑️
NOFX's (Ryan Greene's) sound has probably shaped my taste more than any other sound and from YEARS of listening to them between the ages of 13-18 (and now but less so). I personally think Heavy Petting Zoo and So Long... are their best.

Back on point, to my ears it is DEFINITELY NOT sample replacement. Reinforcement/augmentation very probably. If you listen really carefully the kick is anything but consistent but I guess there's just so much top on it that the attack sounds it. Lots of Distressors on their records too I think. Apparently Punk In Drublic's guitar sound saw a lot of POD usage. I think it sounds the most ridiculous of their albums but there's something very likeable about it.

It's a shame they got **** and I actually don't like Mr Greene's more recent work. Anyone heard No Use For A Name's "Hard Roack Bottom"? Great pop-punk album but my God the quantization/samples/autotune on that album are HORRENDOUS!
I think theres Reinforcement/augmentation samples on the drums too .

So you think they used POD for the guitars ?
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July 2006 - Ryan Greene | Odeo: Search, Discover and Share Digital Media from Millions of Audio and Video Clips

Here's audio of a workshop Ryan Greene did at the Conservatory I believe. I had seen this as a video before, but can't seem to find it now. The video and this audio were both edited differently, and I don't remember exactly what is edited in or out of both of them, but I remember he talked about that album specifically quite a bit, and he claims he definitely did not sample replace on Punk In Drublic. He also says Sandin has the most solid and consistent foot of any drummer he's worked with.
It's definitely a cool listen. His recordings are what got me interested in recording as well.
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July 2006 - Ryan Greene | Odeo: Search, Discover and Share Digital Media from Millions of Audio and Video Clips

Here's audio of a workshop Ryan Greene did at the Conservatory I believe. I had seen this as a video before, but can't seem to find it now. The video and this audio were both edited differently, and I don't remember exactly what is edited in or out of both of them, but I remember he talked about that album specifically quite a bit, and he claims he definitely did not sample replace on Punk In Drublic. He also says Sandin has the most solid and consistent foot of any drummer he's worked with.
It's definitely a cool listen. His recordings are what got me interested in recording as well.
Thanks for that, it was REALLY interesting. Amazing
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they didnt sound sampled to me. a lot of variation between hits. thanks for the link!
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July 2006 - Ryan Greene | Odeo: Search, Discover and Share Digital Media from Millions of Audio and Video Clips

Here's audio of a workshop Ryan Greene did at the Conservatory I believe. I had seen this as a video before, but can't seem to find it now. The video and this audio were both edited differently, and I don't remember exactly what is edited in or out of both of them, but I remember he talked about that album specifically quite a bit, and he claims he definitely did not sample replace on Punk In Drublic. He also says Sandin has the most solid and consistent foot of any drummer he's worked with.
It's definitely a cool listen. His recordings are what got me interested in recording as well.
Wow, thanks a lot, that was great!
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Yeah, no samples on Punk In Drublic. I've toured with NOFX several times, and Smelly does have one of the most consistent foots in punk.
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Equipment list for Crush Recording under Plugins: "Sound Replacer".
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Equipment list for Crush Recording under Plugins: "Sound Replacer".
Great. Dude has a tool.

Steve Albini has PT and DP at his studio. Think it gets used every session?
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Steve Albini has PT and DP at his studio. Think it gets used every session?
Hell no!
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Equipment list for Crush Recording under Plugins: "Sound Replacer".
Your appendix would likely be on a list of your internal organs...have you used it much lately?
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I think theres Reinforcement/augmentation samples on the drums too .
There is a trick use to augment drums called "Thwak".
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Maybe they just don't care enough to do the extra work.
Last time I saw them a few years back at warp tour they were lecturing the crowd on record sales being at an all time low. Maybe it was just a rough spot on the tour. Still an awesome band though !
Last time I saw them at Warped Tour (years and years ago) they asked the crowd if they had heard their song being playing on a popular local radio station. Then they said to **** off because they hated corporate radio and that they weren't going to play the song.
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As to the bass sound: Mike is a really, really good picker and a very underrated bassist. Lousy singer though. He also has lost so much high-end in his ears that he likes highs in everything. That and he likes the sound of early-80's punk rock that has a lot of highs. It's definitely a signature of his.

Smelly is an incredibly solid drummer for that style of music. His drums probably are edited in places, but I doubt a whole lot needs to be done. I can't speak to samples on all songs/records or how many, but I know it's been done on some.

Surfer 7" = good times. A great blend of what I like about NOFX days ago mixed with more contemporary stylings. Check it if you haven't.

And yes, I just used "NOFX" and "stylings" in the same post.
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As to the bass sound: Mike is a really, really good picker and a very underrated bassist. Lousy singer though. He also has lost so much high-end in his ears that he likes highs in everything. That and he likes the sound of early-80's punk rock that has a lot of highs. It's definitely a signature of his.

Smelly is an incredibly solid drummer for that style of music. His drums probably are edited in places, but I doubt a whole lot needs to be done. I can't I to samples on all songs/records or how many, but I know it's been done on some.

Surfer 7" = good times. A great blend of what I like about NOFX days ago mixed with more contemporary stylings. Check it if you haven't.

And yes, I just used "NOFX" and "stylings" in the same post.

Yes!! Love those NOFX records.. Kind of a big fan of the ones by jason and bill from the blasting room... Those guys rule!!

Sharky knows of what he speaks!!!
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As to the bass sound: Mike is a really, really good picker and a very underrated bassist. Lousy singer though. He also has lost so much high-end in his ears that he likes highs in everything. That and he likes the sound of early-80's punk rock that has a lot of highs. It's definitely a signature of his.

Smelly is an incredibly solid drummer for that style of music. His drums probably are edited in places, but I doubt a whole lot needs to be done. I can't speak to samples on all songs/records or how many, but I know it's been done on some.

Surfer 7" = good times. A great blend of what I like about NOFX days ago mixed with more contemporary stylings. Check it if you haven't.

And yes, I just used "NOFX" and "stylings" in the same post.
How about the guitars ? Did they use a POD ?
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POD's weren't out yet.
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wtf! why would you think theres samples & PODs in a punk rock record
from 94? Besides Greene answers this question in that seminar, and to me it doesnt sound replaced or triggered at all.
And PODs?! Again, it sounds just like a tele + rectifier / LP + HiWatt as it does live.
Not a big fan of their guitar sound on their 90s records but it sure sounds natural and always have
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