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Old 30th January 2009
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a little guitar pedal help...

Hello,

Im new to this forum. There are plenty of you out there that know so much more about guitar gear than I do, so I figure its worth a shot.

I just got a Gibson ES-335 and am playing it through a Vox ac-30 TB ...

If i want to head towards a beatlesy, noel gallaghery, britishy sound..
what pedals should I use????
I am looking to buy four or five main keepers.. i just need some advice on how to get the sound im looking for...

any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks!
Old 30th January 2009
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Put some earplugs in and turn the Vox up.
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A good compressor pedal- Keeley and Carl Martin are two very good options.
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Tube Screamer: Don't leave home without it!
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thankyou

Thanks for the info.. ill try cranking it up.. I just found a tube screamer on ebay..so we will give that a try..

:0)
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Hughes +Kettner Tube factor....
Old 30th January 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elliottwinston ➡️
If i want to head towards a beatlesy, noel gallaghery, britishy sound..
what pedals should I use????
For strict Beatletone I'd say no pedal. If you want to cover the fuzzy side of the British 60ies scene (Yardbirds, Beck, Page) then I highly recommend the Colorsound pedals: The One Knob Fuzz is stunning, I totally love it and I really want to get the Yellow Tonebender as well at some point:

Colorsound Pedals from the UK - Musictoyz.com your total online boutique music store for all your guitar equipment needs !
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Crowther Audio Hotcake

Probably the best overdrive pedal ever created.
Old 30th January 2009
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Guitar pedal help

I've used an AC30 a long time. A Tube screamer is good. Don't get the drive up much at all. For the sound you want, set the amp volume to just get on the edge of overdriving with your guitar full up. Bring up the tube screamer to add a little volume to this and you'll have a great sounding overdrive when you're working with the band. Same technique works great with all my old tube amps. I used to use a compressor pedal. I like just the tube screamer out to the amp now for most things. Often when recording, I'll use one of the 3 to 5 watt amps from the 40s, 50s or 60s just straight from the guitar.
You might also consider a Seymour Duncan Boost pedal. Those are great right into any tube amp.
Best Regards,
Gary Gordon
Old 31st January 2009 | Show parent
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Just to be clear - the Beatles never used tube screamers. They just cranked their amps. Occasionally they'd use the board itself for distortion (the faster version of Revolution is a good example), and they also used a Maestro fuzz from time to time.

I'd say don't bother with the tube screamer and get a Voodoo Labs Microvibe. A very common component of the Beatles sound was running the guitar thru a Leslie. (Actually, they ran just about everything thru a Leslie at one point or another) The Microvibe is a modern version of the Univibe, which is a 60s era pedal designed to sound like a Leslie. It's doesn't actually sound much like a Leslie, but you'll be able to get a weird swopping modulating phase that has a similar effect and sounds very cool on its own. It also was a key part of the classic Hendrix and Gilmour rigs. It's also slightly easier to haul around than a Leslie, since they weigh about one metric ton. I've tried out a few of the Univibe copies, and the Microvibe destroys them all.
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wow

Thankyou so much..everybody ..seriously..
It seems I have many things to try out now...
Quick question.. if i wanted to get a delay and wah pedal to accompany this sort of sound im going for.. what would you guys suggest??? Also.. when i mic the Vox live, for a sound system..whats the best mic to use?
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Quote:
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Quick question.. if i wanted to get a delay and wah pedal to accompany this sort of sound im going for.. what would you guys suggest???
I may come off like a Colorsound pimp (no connections there) but absolutely, definitely check out the Colorsound Wahs. These are re-built originals and not reissues and they totally nail the 60ies wah sound. If you dig say Stephen Stills sound on 'Season of the Witch' from the 'Supersession' album, then look no further.

The Colorsound is also great for funky wah sounds à la Shaft.
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a guitar direct to an amp is always my first choice regardless of the amount of crunch or distortion I need for each type or rock I play or produce/record

however, if you are asking for a pedal that might fit whatever you are looking for, I'd suggest the Radial Tonebone pedals, they have a 12ax7 tube as a preamp and they can sound as clean, crunch or heavy as you might need with a nice tone all the way through

you might want to take a look at this, the Hot British

Radial Tonebone™ Hot British | Sweetwater.com

good luck on your quest

It has no end, I can tell you that right now heh
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Try TC¨s Tube Primer/Booster. Great little thing...heh TC´s Nova delay seems cool too.

Best
Old 1st February 2009 | Show parent
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You've got yourself an excellent rig, it essentially mimics my own. Tube Screamers are quite good, but I'd say for a more Gallagher sound a Radial Tone Bone is a very good way to go. Of course just using the natural amps overdrive will more than suit your needs. The Buddah Wah pedal also sweeps across a wide frequency spectrum and has a fantastic fat sound to it. You may also look into a Keeley modded Boss Chorus or Flanger pedal. I've produced great sounds with those.

But for that true Noel sound, just hit the OD on the amp, practise your Major and Minor pentaonics and write some nice simple 3-4 chord tunes that are melody heavy. You'll be set to go my man.
Old 20th March 2009 | Show parent
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Compressor and T-scream

Two essential pedals for me are a compressor and a tube screamer.
Old 20th March 2009 | Show parent
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You need a booster as opposed to an overdrive pedal.

The Crowther Hot Cake gets a lot of love for this job.

Also, I think all the newer Menatone pedals come with a separate switchable clean boost so they could kill two birds with the one stone. I think something like the King of the Britains could get you where you want to be.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Mordo ➡️
Just to be clear - the Beatles never used tube screamers. They just cranked their amps. Occasionally they'd use the board itself for distortion (the faster version of Revolution is a good example), and they also used a Maestro fuzz from time to time.
They also used Tonebenders and a WEM fuzz and the built in germanium fuzz in the Vox 7 series and Conqueror/Defiant amps, which is basically a tonebender with no knobs. Maybe a couple of others in the later years as well. So I would say that an old school fuzz of some sort is essential.

Others would be a volume pedal ("Yes It Is") and some sort of Leslie cabinet or simulator. Generally though if you want to get Beatle-esque guitar sounds I'd worry more about amps than pedals, a blonde Bassman type of thing and a Vox AC50 are a good place to start, and make sure you have comparable guitars.
Old 21st March 2009 | Show parent
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If you are looking for something a little different, check out the Zvex line of pedals. They make a ton of incredible sounding and unique pedals. The Box of Rock is a very versatile OD, giving you anywhere from a little boost to full on distortion. It also cleans up when you roll your guitar volume back just like an amp.

The classic wah sound is of course the Cry baby. I actually own a Morley bad horsie 2 which I love. It doesn't sound as good as a cry baby, but it is switchless which helps in live situations.

Electro Harmonix is also known for having some great sounding pedals, although the quality of them can vary. Tube screamer is the classic so you really can't go wrong there.

There are lots of amazing pedals out there. You can check out tons of reviews on You tube as well if you want to get a sense of the sound.

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Old 30th September 2012
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a guitar direct to an amp is always my first choice regardless of the amount of crunch or distortion I need for each type or rock I play or produce/record

however, if you are asking for a pedal that might fit whatever you are looking for, I'd suggest the Radial Tonebone pedals, they have a 12ax7 tube as a preamp and they can sound as clean, crunch or heavy as you might need with a nice tone all the way through

you might want to take a look at this, the Hot British

Radial Tonebone™ Hot British | Sweetwater.com

good luck on your quest

It has no end, I can tell you that right now

I just got my tonebone hot British, amazing pedal, probably the last distortion pedal I will ever buy
Old 30th September 2012
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That question is too open-ended. You have to test gear for yourself, as your tone is ultimately up to your fingers and feeling. For the 335/Vox combo I would recommend a nice overdrive or two, some delay, and maybe a little modulation.

That's a REALLY good guitar/amp combo by itself and doesn't need much to it. Remember, crank that Vox!
Old 1st October 2012
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As a general sort of Brit pop recommendation, I would say grab a germanium fuzz pedal and a delay pedal. Oasis used delay pretty heavily, I believe Noel was using a Boss DD-5 for awhile, I like the Aqua Puss for a simple analog delay that's not dark. Some kind of a Tonebender germanium fuzz pedal would be good for big lead guitar parts, I have a Phoenix Custom Electronics Lady Stardust fuzz that's really great. I also like the Rangemaster/Treble Booster clones for leads, again using germanium transistors, sounds like half of a fuzz pedal (which is exactly what it is). I'm playing a Les Paul or Casino into an AC30 btw. But yeah, crank the amp.
Old 1st October 2012
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There are SO many decent pedals out there now that this is a really impossible question. And you're not really going to sound exactly like the Beatles no matter what gear you use (it really is at least partly in the fingers). That said, I play an AC30TB in church (from 65) and have used a number of solidbody and hollowbody guitars (Gretsch, Gibson, Peavey, Fender) and pedals that seem to work well include:

Overdrives: Klon or Klone, Hermida Zendrive and Mosferatu, TS808 (not TS9), Butler Germanium Boost, FuzzFace, Tonebenders, Barber Burn Unit, Foxrox Zim

Choruses: Small Stone and Analogman Small Clone, TC Chorus, CE2, not so much the digital ones.

Delays: DMM, DMMTT, DMB, DD2, DM2, Flashback, Memory Lane, Echopark, EQD Ghost Disaster, Yamaha UD Stomp, Akai Headrush

Univibe: haven't found one that sounded bad

Phaser: same as above

Flanger: not a big fan with AC30s but I'd lean towards the ADA

Also, a big recommendation for a Fender Champ or Vibrochamp to supplement the AC30 as you can crank it without hurting yourself.
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