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Old 22nd January 2009
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Optical distractions while mixing

Every now and then i have to switch off my computer monitors to prevent
clients from staring at these while judging a fade out (for example).

And every time i mix OTB i print a mix (even if it´s a basic mix without automation)
to avoid getting distracted by the blinking/flashing sideracks and the console´s metering.

Really helps me to judge my work.

Well, sometimes i even turn my back to the console while listening to the mixes.
Oh well, you might get distracted by ....uhm... other optical highlights sitting on
the couch, then...heh

And closing my eyes doesn´t seem to work out well.
Old 22nd January 2009
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Unfortunately, These days, people like to hear with their eyes...

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Originally Posted by Waltz Mastering ➡️
Unfortunately, These days, people like to hear with their eyes...

TW
Its too bad, cause they're missing all the details in the audio, and the soul in the music.
Old 22nd January 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opentune ➡️
Every now and then i have to switch off my computer monitors to prevent
clients from staring at these while judging a fade out (for example).


And every time i mix OTB i print a mix (even if it´s a basic mix without automation)
to avoid getting distracted by the blinking/flashing sideracks and the console´s metering.

Really helps me to judge my work.

Well, sometimes i even turn my back to the console while listening to the mixes.
Oh well, you might get distracted by ....uhm... other optical highlights sitting on
the couch, then...heh

And closing my eyes doesn´t seem to work out well.
That is the number one place where I had to not look at the DAW while deciding...

Since, on Windows, DAW optimization usually gives priority to background processes, switching to the desktop view (Windows-D in XP and Windows-D to swap back) shouldn't impact DAW performance greatly (although I wouldn't normally do it during a mission-critical realtime process on an overloaded machine) so when deciding on a mix, I'll simply swap to the desktop view (where I can be distracted by the 120 or so icons and all the to do lists and reminder shortcuts heh ).
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Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell ➡️
Its too bad, cause they're missing all the details in the audio, and the soul in the music.
Yeah, you guys are right. Details in audio and soul in the music....
How can one judge the quality of a mastered mix by looking at the waveform -
i had clients that "needed to see(!) the results" of the mastering session...
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I'll simply swap to the desktop view (where I can be distracted by the 120 or so icons and all the to do lists and reminder shortcuts heh ).
Maybe i shouldn´t make use of the "set driver free" option (Nuendo) - then i could
simply switch to the desktop. Have done that in the past....
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Maybe i shouldn´t make use of the "set driver free" option (Nuendo) - then i could
simply switch to the desktop. Have done that in the past....
I've never heard of that option. Are you on Win or Mac? Is that a setting that most Cubendo folks use or is it Nuendo only or... I'm intrigued...

(Of course, from the first week or so of getting a computer on my desk in 1984, I was struggling to not be trapped doing just one thing at a time. heh
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You see... that's why you need Lava Lamps...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theblue1 ➡️
I've never heard of that option. Are you on Win or Mac? Is that a setting that most Cubendo folks use or is it Nuendo only or... I'm intrigued...
I´m on Win. I have no idea if this option is widely used by the Cubendo-ians (what a word) - i used it to prevent other applications (the infamous media
player for example) from getting access to the driver.
Maybe i should re-activate the onboard soundchip for system stuff....

Oh, and no - it´s not Nuendo only...
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Ah... I get it... makes sense (and actually starts sounding familiar). I actually have 3 active interfaces on my machine, the mobo-based SB (which is the system default, keeping me from having device contentions, for the most part), a PCI based Echo Mia I've had since the dawn of time (or at least the dawn of affordable 24 bit converters -- and which I keep threatening to toy around with again or I'd just remove it -- I remember it sounding pretty decent and I've always meant to do some kind of shoot out with the MOTU.) and the MOTU 828mkII I use for my 'pro' audio use. (But I also use its 'DSP CueMix' as a signal routing/mixing tool for the system audio SB output, allowing me maximum monitoring flexibility. After all -- you never know when you're going to want to watch something on YouTube or Hulu while you're mixing or tracking... I find it relaxes me... heh )
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Then there is the Massey LISTEN plugin...

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Then there is the Massey LISTEN plugin...

p.
What does it do? Does it "turn off" the metering? Couldn´t find useful info
on the internet...
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3 units that have been distracting me in my mixing room.

1) The blue led on a SM Pro Audio M-Patch 2, had to put some plastic clay on top of it. Cause it was shining into my left eye.

2) Liquid mix leds flashing around and around with 1.0 software. Seems to have disapear after the 2.0 software upgrade.

3) Power Core FW blue light on the front. It is behind me on the left side of the rack. And it kind of flashes from time to time enough to distract and make me wanna look at it.

and off course the Cubase GUI on the monitor sometimes makes me look more than listen.

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I´ve been working a couple of times where the owner had a Mac running
Logic - it´s a while ago, so can´t tell the version.... i´m not even sure if
he already switched to a G4 Mac...probably...

Anyway, he had this keyboard shortcut which brought up a screensaver saying
"Ears Only" on the two monitors.
Is that a Logic thing? Or is this a Mac thing?
Too bad i forgot to ask back then - does somebody know?
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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For those who haven´t seen it yet, here´s an interesting thread about that
guy who did a mix by watching the meters only (!)...

PSW Recording Forums: Terry Manning => The Famous Fifteen Minute Deaf Mix Story

I just found the mp3 while browsing my archive. Give a closer look at this
thread. It´s really interesting.

Yeah, i know, it sounds like i contradict myself....regarding the thread title.

heh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opentune ➡️
I´m on Win. I have no idea if this option is widely used by the Cubendo-ians (what a word) - i used it to prevent other applications (the infamous media
player for example) from getting access to the driver.
Maybe i should re-activate the onboard soundchip for system stuff....

Oh, and no - it´s not Nuendo only...
Cubase too. It's called 'Release ASIO driver in background', very handy. Best to have a clean desktop with dark background to make the most of it!

Edit: It's recommended that you have a seperate device listed as the default for 'sound recording and playback' in the relevant control panel section, even if you don't use it. I'm not sure exactly why, though.
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