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Getting the word out: Manley SLAM! price goes up.
Old 16th July 2002
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Getting the word out: Manley SLAM! price goes up.

SLAM!: $6,600 USD
Digital I/O Interface option: $2,500
STATUS: Shipping now. Get in line. There are 170 units on backorder.
WHY SO MUCH BUCKS?
Sorry for the bad news.... You ain't gonna like this and neither do we.
Sorry kids. We have just completed final build and assembly cost for the SLAM! And now that we have it in production and shipping, we can be more accurate on the costing.

The retail price for the base unit SLAM! is going up to $6600 effective immediately.

Hutch and I sorely miscalculated how much this SLAM! puppy would cost to build. We did an initial estimate of build cost back in January 2001 when it was still just a hyped up Manley ELOP. 17 months of R&D later and four million features later, a 350 piece parts count just for one side chain board, for example, well, for that matter why not mention the side chain's full featured insert patch bay that's included, 28 connectors on the back, 12 knobs and 11 switches on the front, 8 audio transformers and an outboard power supply later, all this stuff added up into the stratosphere, cost wise. Every little thing added up. When you see inside, you'll understand.

I guess we could have pulled it all off with no tubes and no transformers, no fancy metering and just used a $5.00 DSP chip and a wall wart, but you know our insanity better than that by now.

I am sorry it took so long to discover this (well, it's not like we really wanted to know how much we overran our initial cost guestimate) but anyway, bottom line is the base unit retail price for the SLAM! is now $6600.

And as for the SLAM! 24/192 upsampling ADC/DAC Digital I/O Interface, with all the added ANALOG filters, dither, noise shaping, word length selection, and sample rate selection features, word clock, super clock, and all that, that guy is also now a $2500 add on option. The first guess of $2000 retail would have worked for the main DAC/ADC engine but we had no idea how much all the getting in and out of the damn thing added up. And it did. Fussy, fussy details.

Six people lucked out and got a SLAM! at the old preliminary price, lucky them. Bask in your glorious achievement and don't rub it in.

In order to be able to be around next year and the next and bring out more fantastic products for ya'll, we need to charge what we need to to keep the big ball rolling. I was threatening last year around AES to make across the board Manley retail price cost adjustments. We didn't do it then due to the world falling into Osama's Big Toilet. And then this year, business has been so powerfully great that I didn't want to upset the applecart and jinx us as it were. Be forewarned however, that this coming Fall AES I will put a few prices up, most notably, the Massive Passive, which we have been basically giving away, and the Tube Direct boxes, also "not for profit" items.

I don't know if you guys can fully appreciate the detail and attention we put into this gear, but when I am paying our parts and labour bills every week, I sure can appreciate it... we care too much and we try too hard. We have 40 people here at the factory, here in Chino, California, USA building this stuff. We go for best sonics and highest reliability on everything we do. We are insane about this stuff. And we also know that there is a market for this and folks do appreciate the science and the art that goes into every Manley piece. And they also appreciate the long term stability of the company as well as our lightening quick and fully attentive customer
service. I am not going to apologize for these high values we hold or the real cost of such attention to detail and service for gear that should still be working in 50 years. (Maybe with a few re-tube jobs and a re-cap.) These products we build are not disposable goods, nor will they fall out of fashion in the next long while. (hopefully)

We are building for a lifetime here and we hope you and your clients will appreciate this as much as we do.

From my heart, folks. This is all more about pure passion rather than getting rich, I promise. Thank you for understanding.

Cheers, EveAnna Manley, President
Manley Laboratories, Inc. 13880 Magnolia Ave. Chino, CA. 91710
Tel: (909) 627-4256 Fax: (909) 628-2482
Old 16th July 2002
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**** that. i had no idea it would be THAT expensive. it better blow me every day for that kind of cha ch$ng.
Old 16th July 2002
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Fantastic build 'feel' on the SLAM!, great looking.

Hi Eve-Anna!

Old 16th July 2002
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I thought it was supposed to be $3500...
Old 16th July 2002
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Yeah so did I. Intentions were there... oh well.
Old 17th July 2002
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so .... how about if all gearslutz members would buy one .... could we get a special rate ??? .... I know I want one now .... reading your message made me surf to the manley site and now all I can think of it that wicked slam ..... I think I need one .... ...........
Old 17th July 2002
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Ditto what I said at RO: I usually rent gear in this price range, so it won't really effect me that much. I appreciate a company as up front as Manley is, has, and hopefully always will be.
Old 17th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by e-cue
I appreciate a company as up front as Manley is, has, and hopefully always will be.
Yep - I've always found them a good company to do business with, and good folks to hang out with. And the $6K doesn't really scare me - it's a lot of money, but damn - great gear costs a lot of money. If you want the best, you ought to be willing to pay for it.

Besides, price a pair of Manley preamps ($2400) and their ELOP ($2500) and add limiters and a slot for the converter, and the price starts to make sense.
Old 17th July 2002
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Yeah, in that light it does make some sense. But still, to go up by just over $3000 is a hell of a jump. I'm not in market for anything at that price range except the tape machines and console. Hell, I wouldn't have bought my Summit for $3000. I got lucky and found it on blow-out for less then $1500. How many people are actually going to spend that kind of money on one piece of outboard?
Old 17th July 2002
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definately just a mothership studio ticket item, and rental item... so this thing has pres on it? i thought it was just a comp/
Old 17th July 2002
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Thanks for 'splaining things that way. I didn't even think of it like that! But yeah.

Yeah it has 80dB of gain available total. 60dB in the micpreamps plus another 20dB of gain in the limiter sections.

BTW, SLAM! stands for Stereo Limiter And Micpre.... and the word "slam" means something very interesting in the Danish language... but we knew that.
Old 17th July 2002
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Isnt it mastering spesific? An alternative to the Waves L2 unit?
Old 17th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jules
Isnt it mastering specific? An alternative to the Waves L2 unit?
With preamps? Nah, I think it's an all around tracking/mixing box, kinda like the what Fletcher had in mind with the 1969. If it's useful for mastering (and I seem to remember Lynn Fuston raving about the demo he had), that's a bonus for us mortals.
Old 17th July 2002
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Originally posted by EveAnna Manley
Thanks for 'splaining things that way. I didn't even think of it like that! But yeah.
That's the way I looked at it (not having the chance to play with it yet), but I really don't know how many folks look at it that way.
Old 17th July 2002
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Hey Jules,
(thanks for the shirt!)

Yes the SLAM! will totally do the L2 level maximizing thing and can be used for mastering right now, although Hutch is brewing up a specific dedicated mastering version of it.

Dave, yeah you should roll over and check out Lynn's unit. Ya'll are nearby aren't ya?
Old 17th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by EveAnna Manley

Dave, yeah you should roll over and check out Lynn's unit. Ya'll are nearby aren't ya?
Well, I'm certainly not close enough to him to want to check out his unit, but I'll see if I can borrow the SLAM for a day or two...
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