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Old 1st March 2003
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alphajerk's Avatar
🎧 15 years
im kinda up in the air right now... i am selling my car so all i have left to drive [besides my wifes suv] is my toyota truck... and im seriously contemplating running seperates up front [already installed] and midbass drivers in the rear, iow losing the rear surround. im putting a 10" sub in the back compartment for the jack/storage in a fiberglassed enclosure. i do have a double din slot for the headunit so i could easily put a LCD in there but no double din units come with a DVD player... but i can get the single DIN flip out screen and a single DIN dvd player from ALPINE which would take up both spaces... hmm, shoud i go surround? im thinking of the ALPINE digital time alignment piece as well, its makes everything sound so freaking tight in the truck i heard that alpine did.\

ahhh.. planning a car audio system. probably more fun than designing any other system. its where i listen to ALL my music.
Old 1st March 2003
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I have been playing around with surround for a little while now. I have been recording classical sessions in surround for about a couple of years, though none of these mixes have been used for releases.

I also have been recording live sound for DVD. This has been mostly jazz. I love that "in the room" experience particularly with concert recordings for DVD. Like most of you here I am not convinced that for rock records it really is the thing, but I could see possibilities for certain releases. With movies I think it has made such a difference to the whole cinema experience.

Next month I have a session recording a comedian for a DVD release. He has a band so I am looking forward to doing this in surround. It is a pity that the format wars are still on, with the exception of DVD video it is difficult to know how to deliver product to the public. For my own demo's I have burnt the audio as a AC3 file to a DVD video and just added a couple of slides to picture.


Old 8th March 2003
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Re: Surround... do you care?

Originally posted by littlelabs
I'm curious amongst you gear slutz out there. But to make a short story long, do you care about surround? let me know.
I think surround sound is probably the single biggest waste of resources happening in the music world today. Bigger than 16 bits being wasted on music with no dynamic range; bigger than the philharmonic performing with Aerosmith or Greenday; bigger than 192kHz sampling rates.

I guess you have to come up with SOMETHING to fill up the five gigabytes of DVD space left over at the end of an album, and 5.1 beats using the space for advertisements. But I'm not going to investin a pair of 5.1 headphones until I grow another three and one-tenth ears.

To put it bluntly, stereo is overkill.
Old 8th March 2003
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🎧 15 years
I recently heard a demo of some Surround stuff by guitarist Hernan Romero. It was recorded with surround in mind from the beginning (i.e. 4 overhead mics on the drum kit etc. etc.) The set up for playback was all Genelecs, covering the center area of a large hotel conference room.

It was astounding. I really think it is a different way of experiencing recorded music. I would willingly sit still for this. Just like the old days- sit down and listen to some music. Of course it helped that the music is great. I kept thinking "I gotta get this CD " and then had to remind myself it won't be on a CD- at least not like this.

It was played back from a PTHD file and every now and then they would flip to the Stereo version and back to Surround. It just sounded _so _ flat when it went back to stereo. Much more of a drastic disappointment than when someone would, say, drop the stereo back to mono.

Funny enough, he would announce the switch "stereo... Surround..... stereo..... Surround" We hardly needed the narration, It was kind of like switching off the Sun and saying "night... day.... night...day "

In the same demo were a few other Made For Surround pieces- some live and some studio. Some 'tasteful' , some 'extreme' all immensely enjoyable. The tasteful ones just used the rears for depth, others made you feel like you were on stage with the band and a couple had stuff zooming around the room - they were obviously created by people on mushrooms.

I think the new possibilities are attracting the more progressive artists right now. Maybe it will lead to a flowering

As to the market for surround, I have heard reports that if you go into a lot of stores today to buy a "stereo" they Won't have any. - just "home theater systems".
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