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Old 6th July 2002
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MD-441

Three old sennehiser MD-441 in very good condition for 750€.

I buy it?

Suggest?

Is an mic only for vocals?

Best regards.

Zyc
Old 6th July 2002
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The 441 works on most anything. It's a great sounding very *clear* "hi-fi" sounding dynamic microphone. Sounds like a good price if they are in good shape, and would be a welcome entry to any pro mic locker IMO.
Old 6th July 2002
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Assumiong that Euros are more or less equal to the US dollar, 250 per mic is a good deal in my eyes.
Old 9th July 2002
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thanx for your reply,

anyone use the md-441 on tom and kick?

best regards
Old 10th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by zyk
thanx for your reply,

anyone use the md-441 on tom and kick?

best regards
Yep. A big issue for toms is the amount of room that 441's need. They're pretty large, and being front address microphones with connectors on the rear, you may (depending on the drum setup) have problems getting the 441's between the toms and the cymbals. I have a little bit of an issue on my house kit with the smaller 421's. But that may be because I'm using a 24" kick drum with deep toms (mounted on a drum rack). The kit sits pretty high, and the mics (or specifically, the cables) can get in the way of the cymbals with some drummers.
Old 10th July 2002
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"The kit sits pretty high, and the mics (or specifically, the cables) can get in the way of the cymbals with some drummers."

thanx for your warning
Humm...perhaps I could use 90Β° neutrik connector...

zyk
Old 10th July 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by zyk

Humm...perhaps I could use 90Β° neutrik connector...

zyk
That would certainly give you an extra few inches.
Old 15th July 2002
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They are wonderful in very close on acoustic guitars(D-28's that type)Work them stereo with a good pre and it's magic."How do you get that guitar sound?"........
Old 18th July 2002
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I've got one that I just had a new capsule put into and it still doesn't seem to be working right. For vocals, I have to crank the gain almost all the way up and it's still noisey. I'm guessing this isn't very common with these mics, right?
Old 18th July 2002
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blake Long
I've got one that I just had a new capsule put into and it still doesn't seem to be working right. For vocals, I have to crank the gain almost all the way up and it's still noisey. I'm guessing this isn't very common with these mics, right? [(

Should not. Mine are almost 15 years old (still have the boxes and factory graph print-out) and use them on a weekly basis. Not the best gain in the cabinet;but still a beautiful piece.
Old 18th July 2002
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It's the best snare and guitar cabinet mic I've ever used.
Old 19th July 2002
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Presence switch question.

Can anyone tell me how the "Presence" switch on the 441 is set up. I've had a used one in the studio for quite some time, but the label is missing from this switch. :eek:
With the microphone pointed straight up and looking at the switch, what are the settings from left-to-right (I know the bass roll-off selector is the same as the 421).

Thanks,
Travis
Old 18th February 2004
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I'm in the same boat, actually (no label on presence switch) but it sounds to me like switching it to the tright introduces a presence peak.

Anyway, I was using one the other day on a guitar cab (where it beat out an old Telefunken 421 and a newer black 421U5) and it sounded really great - until I turned the amp up a little and it started to distort. It was still far from flat out - it's a custom shop 2x12 Bassman sitting around 3.5 on the volume control. I switched it for the old Telefunken and THAT worked fine.

Shouldn't the 441 be able to handle the same SPL as a 421? Do I have a mic problem here?
Old 18th February 2004
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Wow, I just resurrected a thread from almost two years ago!!
Old 18th February 2004
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For me the 441 is great sounding on bottom snare. I often settle for a 57 but am happy when I see a 441.
Old 18th February 2004
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The MD441 is one of my main "heavy male" vocal mic's

They can work well on toms. In fact, anything you would use a SM57 on but need some more sheen, it can work great.

€750,- voor 3 is a great deal in my opinion.

Good luck,
Dirk
Old 18th February 2004
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Its the cat's meow on snare.
Old 19th February 2004
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Another vote for snare. Also works beautifully on many voices. Not too fond of it for guitar cabs though, just seems too bright in that context.

Cheers,
Henrik
Old 19th February 2004
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yipee

I just bought two of these 441s from a fellow Gearslut Barforama and I cant wait to try them out (just need to make up the leads). I had a very heavey week of gearsluttery (is that a word?). In the last week I have bought

Millennia Origin
2 x vintage AKG 451
2 x Sennheiser 421
1 Manley dual mic pre
1 UA 1176
1 Boss overdrive pedal
Amp farm plug in for PT

My bank account is in tatters, Oh wellheh,

cheers,
Ruairi
Old 19th February 2004
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Am i the only guy that likes em' on brass?
Old 19th February 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by bjornson
Am i the only guy that likes em' on brass?
I have heard others who like them in that application. I have never tried them, but I will the next time around.

Best,
Henrik
Old 19th February 2004
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It is a great brass mic....

It is one of the ONLY mics I will put on a french horn for classical or film recording. I also love them on trumpets and trombones for my big band work.


--Ben
Old 19th February 2004
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I'm with Ben on this one.

I've also used the MD441 on upright bass when applicable.
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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441 pre's

let's see if I can ressurect this one.

Still looking for 441 info.
I am delighted to hear it's someones prime mic for french horn as I have a brother that plays it like a pro.

Just curious about favourite pre's for this one.
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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you need a powerfull pre
a mackie vlz just won't cut it
I use telefunken or DAV
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reptil
you need a powerfull pre
a mackie vlz just won't cut it
I use telefunken or DAV
How did you know I have a vlz? ;-)

ben jij dat jomanda?
Old 30th September 2005
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441 is a Great mic, I have 3 and love them

Great on vocals, kick, toms, guitar amps ( back a bit) as they are hyper.....
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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Just bought myself one of these bad boys a couple of weeks ago. sounds great on voice so far, not tried anything else yet. I beleive the hi frequency 'boost' switch is infact an attenuator for the high frequencies e.g. the 'flat' response of the mic is the bright setting.

1.8 volts sensitivity isn't too hot, need a nice clean pre for quiet stuff. I am begining to think a lot of the nice 'analogue' sound is in the hiss anyway (analogue dithering)!

These mics are LONG, about 14" with a standard XLR.

Get the black plastic clips, the clear ones suck and break too easy.

About 250 euro is the going rate s/h on ebay.

Try to get ones with XLR connector if possible.
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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yeah, there's even a whole sennheiser clamp thread in which we discussed these.
Funny, it's as if they worked so hard on developing this mic, they fell asleep when it was time to design a clamp.
Lots of "fallen 441's" out there I suspect.

Still would like to hear about wich pre's used succesfully (and not) with the 441 and what pre on wich instrument, if that does matter altogether, I don't know.

In other words, trying to get a picture of what pre I should buy for when I have the mics.
Especially on brass (avatar instrument included heh ).
Hope it will be below a $/€ 1000,
(though many would say there Γ­s no good preamp below a 1000)
Old 30th September 2005 | Show parent
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One thing i'd like to know is... how does one open these mics up? I see a spring clip in the XLR socket, but I cant imagine that holding the mic together. Only other thing I see is the little panel beside the hf switch may come off and have something under it... anyone?

EDIT

Ok, i just lifted the flap, there is a big old screw under there, take it off and the connector / switch comes out... watch those wires! they are tiny and fragile! I can't see how to dismantle the mic more than this ATM, but at least my XLR connection doesn't rattle now!
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