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Old 14th December 2007
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Jeff Buckley Grace video ... what mic. is he using?
YouTube - Jeff Buckley-Grace

there are 2 microphones ... one in the studio and another where he's playing with the band ... what is the mic he's using with the band? is it a Heil? thx.
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Old 14th December 2007
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AKG solidtube?

EDIT - Hmmm maybe not after all... The JB mic looks fatter and squatter - U47?
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jb rules! i dont think heil was around then.
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Note the offset position of the XLR connectorJeff Buckley Grace video ... what mic. is he using?-u47.jpg
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theres also nother mic with schockmount u87?...

I think I even see a third in that darker shot with shockmount but hanging upside down
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theres also nother mic with schockmount u87?...

I think I even see a third in that darker shot with shockmount but hanging upside down

Either an 87 or a 67. They both have the same body. Bound to be one of them since there weren't nearly as many "knock off" mics 15 years ago.

Steve
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Either an 87 or a 67. They both have the same body.
I think it's a U87, you can bearly see in some shoots that it has a XLR cable connected.
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Looks like a FET 47 and a U87 to me.
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Yeah, it's a 47 FET. Why do you ask?
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no reason in particular I just love JB and the mic. caught my eyes ... I thought he was using some kind of a dynamic since he was playing with the band in a 'live' situation

I thought it was a heil pr30 or 40 but I realise now those weren't around at his time ... are those good vocal mics anyways?!
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i know he used a u87 for grace.
could have used tin cans and monster cable as far as i'm concerned.

can we retroactively give Andy Wallace a grammy for that record or what?! you'll also note in the video that he goes from long hair to short hair, which is somewhat of a big no no in video's and must have driven the folks at columbia crazy.

lastly, everytime i get down about the financial aspect of owning my own studio, and trying to shill my records i try to bear in mind that jeff died in debt to the record company.
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Old 15th December 2007 | Show parent
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Yes Grace is an amazing sounding record as well as Sketches CD1.
So the vocals have been recorded separately? I imagine the band recorded 'live'? any idea? ... the performaces are so organic and tight I always imagined the vocals were recorded live as well!
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Old 15th December 2007 | Show parent
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Umm, I'm pretty sure the video wasn't shot at the actual tracking session. Those mics are props, nothing more.

And Jeff could have sung into a tin can with a string on it and it would have still sounded incredible.
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Umm, I'm pretty sure the video wasn't shot at the actual tracking session. Those mics are props, nothing more.

And Jeff could have sung into a tin can with a string on it and it would have still sounded incredible.
Word. In the video though I looks like an FET 47 and an 87.
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Word. In the video though I looks like an FET 47 and an 87.
I'll bet at the time those mics were sitting in some prop house's locker, nobody wanted that old crap in those days.
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I'll bet at the time those mics were sitting in some prop house's locker, nobody wanted that old crap in those days.
Exactly. That video is not that old but even back then no one really gave a shit. What's crazy if you watch Alphaville there is a scene where there are U47s and a U67 being flung around the set as props. Killed me to watch it thinking about how much money I could make selling those now...

I also saw an "on the set" photo once for what was either "Vivre sa vie" or "Breathless" where Karina was sitting at a table and there is a U47 literally duct taped to the table for the dialog... I bet if you do an image search you could find it.

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Don't get me started on how many old RCA ribbons I've seen, mint, at photography studios.
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Since we're on the topic. I remember seeing this way back in 95 on much music. Totally blew me away!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jap897zERTw&rel=1
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Jeff Buckley was such a talented human being, I miss him.

I'm glad that we have Grace...
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Jeff Buckley was such a talented human being, I miss him.

I'm glad that we have Grace...
Yep. One of the only artists of the past 25 years to actually transport me somewhere else every time I listen to him.
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i dont understand how so many people dont know about him... any how some people dont like him! from the time i saw the bbc documentary on i was hooked. amazing voice.
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Another gush over Jeff Buckley thread which I love....im pretty sure he could have sung into a tin can as well and sounded better then 99.9% of the trash out there today. Unfortunately all good things come to an end...at least well always have Grace.
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Not to mention the Live at Sin-e album, as well as some great moments on "My Sweetheart the Drunk"...
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Word to that...the Full Sin-e album is excellent...even the parts where hes just talking are great...worth picking up!
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Old 19th December 2007 | Show parent
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no reason in particular I just love JB and the mic. caught my eyes ... I thought he was using some kind of a dynamic since he was playing with the band in a 'live' situation

I thought it was a heil pr30 or 40 but I realise now those weren't around at his time ... are those good vocal mics anyways?!
It's a video. What you see has no connection to the reality of what he used.
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Milab?
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i know he used a u87 for grace.
Are you sure about this? A seemingly well informed source tells me Jeff used a Milab VIP-50 for Grace - a fact that would make me happy of course.

Edit: A couple of Google searches later: It seems he used U87:s for the guitar amp and the VIP-50 for vocals. All according to Bryant W. Jackson who was actually there (at Soundtrack NY).
Last edited by Mattias_Milab; 9th November 2010 at 10:32 AM.. Reason: GIYF
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Are you sure about this? A seemingly well informed source tells me Jeff used a Milab VIP-50 for Grace - a fact that would make me happy of course.

Edit: A couple of Google searches later: It seems he used U87:s for the guitar amp and the VIP-50 for vocals. All according to Bryant W. Jackson who was actually there (at Soundtrack NY).
From:

www.jeffbuckley.com

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Grace Notes:

Jeff Buckley plays a Gibson L1, a borrowed Fender Telecaster and a Rickenbacker 12-string. He's using a Fender vibro-verb amp and, today, D'Addario strings. He just bought an old steel dobro and a Bina harmonium from Pakistan. Buckley uses Jim Dunlop slides. After experimenting with several microphones for Jeff's vocals, producer Andy Wallace settled on a Neumann U-87. Mick Grondahl plays a Fender Jazz bass through an Ampeg bass amp. Matt Johnson plays Slingerland drums and Zildjian cymbals.
©1994 by Musician Magazine. All rights reserved.
I suspect that you may have been misinformed. Sorry...
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I suspect that you may have been misinformed. Sorry...
Thanks for the info. I don't want to tell people that Jeff used a Milab unless I'm sure. Still, this is what Bryant W. Jackson (who was an assistant engineer for the Soundtrack sessions) writes - he seems to remember the details quite clearly:

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The Tele was used for basics afaik, if something else was in the studio (Bearsville), he would've picked it up, heh. During overdubs, in the studio, the guitars present were:

The Tele..he hardly ever picked it up (imo it was a bitch to play)
Les Paul 1960 Classic
Les Paul Ace Frehley signature (he used this alot)
Gibson Semi-Hollowbody, wine red most likely an ES-175...he used this alot with Hali...
Various other Gibsons came thru for a day or two...revolving door..
Precision Bass

Amps: Vibroverb, rented from S.I.R. his didn't record well.
Marshall JCM and 4x12, rented. used in various places, mostly solos that never made it, and he played some fine ones on Lover....also the overdriven bass part on Eternal...that was Jeff...he was a trip...he told Andy, I have an idea...went in, turned it up and just went nuts...he was jumping around, it was almost comical, I think you can hear 'that' in the part....anyway.

No pedals....he was VERY attached to his quadraverb, mostly to a reverb setting he called JeffMahal....he'd modified the Taj Mahal patch...to be even longer..

Mic on vox was a Milab VIP 50...tracked without headphones, thru the studio monitors...
Could it be they used a U87 at Bearsville and a VIP-50 at Soundtrack?
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Originally Posted by Mattias_Milab ➡️
Thanks for the info. I don't want to tell people that Jeff used a Milab unless I'm sure. Still, this is what Bryant W. Jackson (who was an assistant engineer for the Soundtrack sessions) writes - he seems to remember the details quite clearly:



Could it be they used a U87 at Bearsville and a VIP-50 at Soundtrack?
thumbsup

These OD sessions at soundtrack were done on an API Legacy mostly, some work was done on a Neve VR. Studer 827's, except Andy needed to punch the whole drum kit for about 8 bars (matched the room(s) sound with the lex 480, heh)...it was dumped to 3348 for this move then, 'punched' back into the studer. Hali and Cristi were (as all of his 'cabaret' takes) direct to...ahem....ADAT...yes.
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