Hi,
I love the GZ67fet, but don't need for the 3 patterns choice... Only the cardioid pattern, as proposed by the Warbler series.

But somebody knows what is the Warbler model the closest ?

I'd say Warbler VI in position 2.

But the proof is in the pudding.

OK, thanks legato !
Other users could confirm ?

I'll add that the GZ is a step up, regardless of patterns.

Ok, but I insist on the fact I'll use only one pattern for my voice... Cardioid is my friend inside my opened homestudio !
So do you think the GZ67fet with is cardioid pattern engaged will sound exactly the same than Warbler VI ?

Nope.

It has the merit of being clear!
You think there is no Warbler that exactly matches the GZ67fet with its cardioid setting ?
Only the mark VI approaches it, without really matching it, that's right ?

Yeah it's a different animal than the Warblers. Different transformer and some other circuit tweaks. I think legato' probably right about the VI in voice position 2 since the GZ67 is a little airier than the MKI.

Ok thanks.
To resume, if I want the sound of the gz, I buy the gz ! It's so simple in fact...

To help the undecided ones like me, here's a list established by Guosheng Zhuang himself, from 3u-Audio, resuming the spirit of each mic :

"Below mics have reduced sibilance design :

Warbler (also called Warbler I), Warbler MKID and GZ67fet
Warbler MKII, Warbler MKIID and GZ47fet
GZ47fet V

Below is my description for LDC mics:

Warbler (also called Warbler I), Warbler MKID and GZ67fet: airy, sounds like vintage U87
Warbler MKII, Warbler MKIID and GZ47fet: smooth and balanced, sounds like vintage U47fet
GZ47fet V: smoother top end than GZ47fet
Warbler MKIII, Warbler MKIIID and GZ12fet: warm and bright, sounds like vintage C12
Warbler MKIV, Warbler MKIVD and GZ251fet: warm and airy, sounds like vintage ELAM251
Warbler MKV: warm and smooth, a little tight, sounds like smoother or darker ELAM251
Warbler MKVI and Warbler MKVID: bright for modern music, sounds like vintage U87 too"

It's totally ok to own a product and not use all of its features. I own an apogee duet, but since I got a custom preamp built for me I no longer use the built-in pres. The unit still perfectly meets my needs. And there may come a time later on where you might use a different polar pattern.

Yes of course, but for me, the question of price is also important ... the difference between a Warbler and a gz is about 3x ! Even if the gz price is very reasonable...

More like 2x. The cardioid only Warbler is $270, the GZ67Fet is $599.

They're both very nice mics. If budget is an issue, grab the Warbler. It's a great mic.

Yes, 2x you're right...
But the GZ seems so great... I think I'll go to it !

These mics are always compared to u87s, 251s, c800s, etc.... I find these comparisons practically worthless since I am not in the market for a $4000+ mic.

I assume I'm not alone here?

Conventional wisdom would suggest that a more helpful/practical comparison would be between other mics in a similar price point, and there usability in a mix. Has anyone had an opportunity to use these warblers side by side with some of the more well known products like an AT 4033, 4047, AKG c214, Shure ksm32, ksm44, Rode nt1a, nt2, Blue baby bottle, etc...

And don't give me any sh** about price doesn't matter. Yes, some mics perform better than their price suggests, but let's be real here: Price does matter to anyone with limited resources or on a budget.

So bang for buck, how do the warblers stack up?

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I've owned every mic on your list except the NT2 and have a lot of experience with the 3U mics. I think they're, on the whole, better mics than any of those. That said, I also still like the 4033, 4047 and Baby Bottle.

Also, the reason people compare them to classic mics is to get an idea of their voicing. If someone posts "it's kind of Baby Bottle flavored with a little bit of 4033 and a top end reminiscent of an NT2" no one will have any idea what you're talking about because those aren't widely known touchstone sonics.

Thanks for the response.

My point was, I doubt many in the market for a $300 mic have much experience with a $10,000 mic. But we all get googly eyed over the thought of them , so comparisons make for great marketing. I'm not interested in that, but I am interested in these mics. Would you mind indulging me a little further with your experience? Which warblers have you used and what did you like about them relative to the shure or akg mics?

For what it's worth I wish I would of gotten the warbler 1 to start. The warbler 6 is a awesome mic but imo it's overly bright. I don't know what kind of voice you have but if you have a higher sounding voice, I'd look to the warbler 1 or 2. But if you still the fancy the 6, I am currently selling mine. In the market to try a Warbler 2 or 5.

Bought the Warbler Mk VI, going through Audient id14 into Ableton Live 9, in my laptop setup and it is so much noisier than my Rode NT1-A.

Is it possibly too much of a mic for my setup?

I'd be surprised if the noise is coming from the Warbler itself. They have pretty low self noise. I've got a Warbler VI here and no noise issues with it.

Yeah that’s either gain staging or something wrong with the mic. All the Warblers I’ve used are quiet.

Pardon my ignorance but are these mics available through ebay stores only?

3U? The best way is to just email the owner. You'll get the best price and availability info. Pretty much everyone buys them that way, direct from Guosheng.

I really doubt that's the problem, but it's possible that your new mic just has a higher output than what you're used to, so you might have to turn your gain down or even use a pad.

No, they are dealer direct, here is the link to contact GZ about purchasing one of his mics. They are cheaper when you contact him directly instead of purchsing through eBay due to their fees. GZ is very prompt in regards to returning emails. Tell him what you desire then he will send you a PayPal link with cost and payment instructions. I am in Nashville and if I remember it took about 9 working days to get 2 mics.

3U Audio Microphones,Condenser Microphones

Cheers for replies guys,
Having to keep the gain below half when recording to limit the noise, but even then the vocals sound slightly distorted and there is visible noise in the silence of the waveforms when I play them back.

Have contacted Audient for advice, but maybe I need to contact 3U now.

Thanks for your answer, My old KB37 from Line 6, that the Audient replaced had a pad but the iD14 does not seem to do this. Any tips for a songwriter who records rather than an engineer haha!

I'm looking to upgrade my modded mxl v67 I have a new circuit and capsule from AA Dave Thomas recommended the mic sounds good but I need something more modern sounding for hip hop R&B pop stuff like that how would the 3u warbler mk6 compare to the c800g anyone have samples please help thanks