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Old 28th January 2009
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Got a dellima. I found the almost perfect speaker setup combo, but...

I'm using an open back cab with one tone tubby 12 inch ceramic and one EV 12L speaker. The combo sounds great. The only problem is the EVL is way too loud. I need to find a speaker with the same characteristics as the EVL but not as efficient to pair up with my tone tubby.

I'm using a Suhr Badger 18 as a head by the way.

Any suggestions? I was thinking of the tone tubby alnico, but need opinions before spending $300.00

Thanks
Old 28th January 2009
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If you get the tone tubby alnico then you will have as they say the H-Bomb set up!

I have the H-Bomb set upin my port city 2x12 cabinet 1 tone tubby ceramic and it sounds superb. 1 tone tubby alnico and 1 tone tubby ceramic.
Old 29th January 2009 | Show parent
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The H bomb, I like the sound of that.

I'm a little worried in purchasing the TT alnico. I didn't like the TT ceramic by itself, but when I paired it with the EV 12L it sounded great. I'm hoping the H-bomb setup will sound as good. If the EV 12L wasn't so loud it would be a perfect combo pair.
Old 29th January 2009 | Show parent
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ted weber's got a product that allows you to quiet one of your speakers down a bit.

check out his website... you'll find it. I can't remember what it's called.

webervst.com ??
Old 29th January 2009 | Show parent
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ted weber's got a product that allows you to quiet one of your speakers down a bit.

check out his website... you'll find it. I can't remember what it's called.

webervst.com ??
Thanks for the link, The miniMass looks like it would work. Difficult decisions to be made now.
Old 31st January 2009 | Show parent
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There's also the Scumnico which is a special designed Weber for
South Bay Amp Works.

Scumback Speakers: Simply The Best
Old 31st January 2009 | Show parent
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There's also the Scumnico which is a special designed Weber for
South Bay Amp Works.

Scumback Speakers: Simply The Best
Those prices are really good. Almost sounds too good. I'm going to spend some time listening to the files. The London is probably close to the badger 18 in tone. I wish they had files of the scumnico.

Thanks for the link!
Old 1st February 2009 | Show parent
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Scummies are totally cool and since they are custom built by Weber, you double up on the quality control.

There are several great reviews out there especially on TGP.

Jim Seavall is a regular over there.

[email protected]

Found this page.
Scumbacks Speakers: Scumnico Sound Clips

Jack Devine Scumnico clips

Visit Jack's SoundClick page at: SoundClick artist: Jack Devine - page with MP3 music downloads

Gear used for recording these clips:

Gibson 63 SG Jr w/P90 pickups
Gibson 71 LP Custom
57 Reissue Strat
Marshall 1972 Super Bass
Metro JTM45 (metroamps.com)
Blockhead JTM45
HO Attenuator
Scumback Scumnico 65 watt speaker (open back combo cabs)

http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/scum...2sb-strat2.mp3
http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/scum...71lp-angus.mp3

Also
Brad Schultz Scumnico clips

Visit Brad's SoundClick page at: SoundClick artist: Brad Schultz - page with MP3 music downloads

Gear used for recording these clips:

Tele w/Lollar/GVCG Alnico III pickups
Gries 5 amp, single 6V6
Scumback Scumnico 30 watt speaker (open back combo cab)
Old 1st February 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BadJones ➑️
Got a dellima. I found the almost perfect speaker setup combo, but...

I'm using an open back cab with one tone tubby 12 inch ceramic and one EV 12L speaker. The combo sounds great. The only problem is the EVL is way too loud. I need to find a speaker with the same characteristics as the EVL but not as efficient to pair up with my tone tubby.

I'm using a Suhr Badger 18 as a head by the way.

Any suggestions? I was thinking of the tone tubby alnico, but need opinions before spending $300.00

Thanks
Did you match the impedance on your speakers?
Old 2nd February 2009 | Show parent
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You do need to run the 9 volt battery test to make sure that the 2 speakers are working in phase with each other.

When you apply the voltage to the speaker leads, the cones should move forward together.
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Thanks guys, The impedance is correct and I know about the 9 volt battery trick. It comes in handy now and then. The EV is just a louder speaker if you seen the size of it's magnet you'd understand.

Anyway it comes down to: the H-Bomb
or Scumnico and h75
or scumnico and h55

I'd done some recording this weekend with just the TT 12 inch ceramic in an open back cab and it came out wonderful. Can't get a lowend chug sound but that wasn't what I was going for.
Old 6th February 2011 | Show parent
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Great combo for 2-12 cab is Jensen P12N + C12N (classic Alnico+ceramic scheme).
Smooth, wide and with nice shimmering highs (bit more hight than Scumbacks combo), more for Tele/Strat Blackface TR type of sound.
Actually, Jensen combo forced me to re-consider Scumbacks. Pricewise they are pretty similar, so choice depends obviously on taste.
Old 6th February 2011 | Show parent
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Trying to find a less efficient speaker than the EV
that still holds together on the low end may prove
to be frustrating.

Some AlNiCos may be sweet on the top end, but
turn to mush when pushed on the low end.

Ideally, you'd want a clean voiced ceramic with an SPL
of around 97 dB or less to get any noticeable volume drop.

If you are just having trouble with stage volume, you can tilt the cab
upwards or across stage or consider a plexi-panel.

EVM12L's can be quite unforgiving if you don't have the amp
dialed in just right, but with a Badger 18 you're barely working
the speaker, so it's kinda loafing.

I think you might be quite happy with a Scumback M75
or a Fane Medusa
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