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Originally Posted by DAW PLUS ➡️
It may be ultimate one day if over 50% of GS members would join the poll.
That was my thoughts about such polls at first as well. But I'm not so sure that getting eg 5000 votes will make such a big difference compared with eg having 1000 votes. But multiple choice polls often end up with people voting for all the DAWs they own/ use, and don't say much about what their favourite is (if they had to choose one), so if you (after a few hundred more votes) compare this poll with other polls, you may see some relatively big differences.

Btw, here are some other DAW polls from this forum:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...12-2013-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...urite-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...orite-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-king-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-daw-poll.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...o-you-use.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...rch-paper.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...tools-8-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...at-2010-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...u-use-own.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...orite-daw.html

Even if each of these polls have relatively few votes, they still say something about DAW popularity over the last few years.


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PT OSX for example is leaping much behind my expectations, even early after the poll started.
Let's see after a few hundred more votes. Many former DSP based Pro Tools owners (like myself) have moved over to working natively and therefore don't necessarily need Pro Tools anymore. As this and the previous "ultimate" poll may show: the number of users who own DSP based Pro Tools systems represent a very low percentage of the DAW market (3-4% right now), and while PT still may serve as some kind of industry standard, it only serves as an industry standard within a very small segment of the DAW market.

I think the 'ultimate' DAW will be the DAW that is most stable, has the best performance and implements both the features users know they need and ask for and features they really like as soon as they get them.

But there are two other, really important factors: A good DAW needs to work well within the education market (read: easy to use and have good scoring capabilities) and it also needs to cater for professionals' needs even if most of it's user usually won't need all these features. I think this is important for a number of reasons, eg. because many hobbyists want to use what the pros use, and because the wannebe market is gigantic compared with the pro market - and because wannabes still want a great professional feature set.

In addition, I think any DAW which doesn't prioritise song writing features will lose terrain. There are thousands of songs/compositions written for every song that get any airplay. A DAW which doesn't somehow work work as a musical instrument and doesn't help it's users in the process of writing good songs simply wont have the same appeal as a more sound engineer oriented DAW.

But we'll probably see both Steinberg and Avid coming up with better solutions for composers and songwriters within not too long, because they have been focusing on such features for a long time. Steinberg has taken over most of the Sibelius team, and according to Avid, the process of using their new score outsourced score coders is mainly going well. I'm sure Apple will do something a well, I'm just worried about how long it will take.

So if my thoughts about this are somehow in touch with reality, Pro Tools could end up winning more customers again, eg. if they make a consolidated program a la Logic with an integrated composing/score area which isn't just a very downscaled version of Sibelius.

And of course: In terms of being the 'ultimate' DAW, polls can and do lie – because everybody can vote, including people who only have used their fav. DAW a handful of times or have never compared their DAW properly with what other DAWs offer. But as mentioned, this poll isn't about "the ultimate DAW"; it's meant as the ultimate poll about the voters' personal favourite DAW. :-)

One more thing about the success-ratio of each of these DAWs: The manufacturers, of course need to listen to their customers, but the worst thing which could happen for the development of any of these DAWs would be if the companies would post questionnaires to their users and ask questions like "Do you use the score editor?", "How often do you use **** for live use?" etc –*if the answers would fool them to assume that they eg. don't need to keep developing this or that feature just because not so many users use it, ignoring the fact that most people who eg. need a program which is great for live use – or one that has a great score editor –*already are using other DAWs, and therefore won't respond to such questions.

OTOH, I'm sure that all these companies are aware of that people who learn a DAW/score app when studying are more likely to use the same program when they buy their own software. So there could still be a certain chance that my personal favourite DAW up to now will pick up the development of score and composing features again. ;-)