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Look, i've never said if there is money involved you shouldn't pay to the creators.
great, than you won't be stealing any more music than? I'm pretty confident that everything you want is available someplace where you can pay for it.
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There are some places where 15 dollars, like in my country, is a looooot of money. That's where the line becomes blurry. And when I said I paid 100 dollars to watch Radiohead live, is more than a month's salary for some people over here.
that's rough, but somehow they manage to pay for the things that can't be easily stolen without consequence.
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What would you do? You can't buy every album you want to listen to, so should you turn on the radio and wait for the song to be broadcasted, therefore be exposed to a lot of marketing of the labels, or maybe there could be a way to get the music for free.
yes, you wait, and/or you find the legal alternatives. there's no excuse for stealing... you are just rationalizing at this point.
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I mean, the artists should be open to this, and maybe MUST be open.
why should the artist be open to having their work stolen and not being compensated for their work?
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There was a time in the 90's where I was able to buy 5 cd's,
the black album from metallica, use your illusion II guns & roses, and 3 from green day. That wasn't enough for me, really! Bad decade to be living for me.
but you did buy them... you found a way to prioritize your budget to pay for the things you valued.
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Not everywhere is USA and Europe, though the main sales comes from those places. I have a different experience, and wished to have listened to a lot more music in my childhood, but I did have to pay to listen.
So it's a little tricky, wasn't I or or my friends not worthy of music?
you're not allowed to steal it, or distribute it en mass. what will you do when the great illegal supply of music is cut off? you'll go back to figuring out how to pay for it.
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My other suggestion is, like you did, DONATION. Though not everyone who has a computer, has a credit card...
If you can, you pay.
but you had that choice and you didn't, that doesn't make a strong argument for that model working.
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Even more, if you like it a LOT after you listened, you can go back and donate even more.
That's like a Mecenas of this actual times.
so how much are you going to pay for In Rainbows, now, that you've had time with it?
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Music in the right moment, is spiritual elevation, everyone should be given this right.
A lot of things in the right moment are a spiritual elevation, which is even more reason why it's bad karma to steal it if it negatively effects someone else.
Stealing music is Bad Karma...
watch this...
or, tell it to this guy...
I'd be genuinely curious to get your thought on both of those videos.