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ion-five
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hey, great soundclip!! thanks
sounds actually really quite close and mellow to the pianet M examples...
since you say rhodes is even more mellow naturally than a wurli, i would assume this is also possible if not even more possible with a rhodes?
i just had a quick listen not at home, so i will check again later.
@Edward
with DI i actually meant into a DI of my summing mixer and than through Neve 1272 preamp
i just wonder if that gives me the mellow sound as well or if a speaker-mic situation is needed for that
i have some amp plugins.. but its most likley not the same!?
i know about the roland pahser you mentioned, but its usualy realy expensive
i would like to know, to make the rhodes sound "exactly" like the Pianet M example
what phaser and what vibrato are you guy recomending?
expecialy about vibrato i am really clueless
creamy 70s sounds how i like it, but the Pianet M examples are really right there of what i want
I don't know that EVEN if you got a Pianet M that it will sound Exactly like what you heard either. A lot of it has to do with playing as well.
But as mentioned above, when you get a real EP it WILL change your playing almost immediately. I am not much of a player either. Actually I am a REALLY vintage synth nut. I am 23 and have only been playing for a few years... but the moment I got my first Rhodes I just started playing more. You will too.
Anywho I think that to get the sound you want it has more to do with effects than with the pianet M. The problem is you don't like the sound of the T models and that's what you will be getting with the M... a T pianet except with a phaser built in. And truth is you will only use it with the phaser on soo.... If you got a Rhodes you would have a more dynamic instrument with sustain capabilities... and you will like it ran through pretty much any and all kind of effect. It's just going to be a broader range of sounds.
He is right though. If you are dead set on that Pianet M sound... and can find one... get one. It's true about the Wurlis. I moved to San Francisco for a part of this year and they draw much more $ than any EP. They are beautiful instruments. Really funky.. They have pretty much the same tines as the Pianets, but the tines are hammered in the Wurli... that's also why the Wurli feels better... and is also the reason the wurli can have sustain. The pianet gets plucked.. sorta like a harpsichord... Which is also the reason for it's like of dynamic response. Harpsichord's don't really have dynamic variation.. pianet either.
I am getting an Ensoniq DP-4 pretty soon. From what I have heard it's got a great digital phaser. Vintage 70's DOD pedals can be had for REALLY cheap man. Phase 90 is great but it's just one knob, so the depth doesn't change. Don't be afraid to experiment. I got a great Wurli phase sound in seconds. It can be gone about a million different ways. Creamy 70's sound on the rhodes? Hell yes man. The Rhodes is all over that sonic terrain. The difference is that bell like tone cuts through the mix a lot better than a pianet. In that respect the Pianet is more like the Wurli. But the Rhodes is DEF more mellow than a Wurli. Pianet's are muddier than both. There is NOTHING muddy about a Rhodes or Wurli.
I promise that either way you go... Wurli, Rhodes, Pianet... you will be happy with what you buy. So REALLY it's a question of which features you are willing to leave out. a Rhodes is very heavy in comparison to both as well. Pianet is very light, can be carried by one hand. Wurli can too.. but it's a bit more cumbersome. Rhodes is a bitch to carry by yourself.
And I personally think that going direct sounds cool... but for a more mellow tone I would use a nice Tube amp Mic'd. An amp simulator probably wouldn't be necessary going DI. Reverb.... YES. The Darker the Verb, the closer to your sound. A lot of ways to get what you want. I suppose what you need to figure is whether or not it is the sound of an effect processor that you hear in those VID's, or the EP going through the processor.