Originally Posted by sage691 ➡️

As I mentioned before, he already got paid in FREE SESSION time in my studio (with me as the engineer/producer) on another song with a female singer he brought to the studio. She supposedly had "label interest", so his motive was clear. This was NOT one of my songs. They had some basic generic riffs and the plan was to hash something out in the studio with this woman who had lyrics and something "jazzy" in mind. With my help it actually turned in to something tangible. I ran a commercial studio back then (plenty of happy clients) and my hourly rate was not cheap. I reckon I put in 4-5 times the amount of actual time on that project compared to what he did on my 5 songs. That was an 8 hour drumming session, versus what I did for them which was 4-5 days of fulfilling a producer/engineer role in a pro studio.

People that place a monetary value to their offerings can sometimes also be the type that sees no value in what you do/did for them - they monetize anything they do for you, but expect that you do not apply the same standard to them. And those types you sometimes have to educate and see how they respond when confronted with a simple truth that they've been actively avoiding.