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people who actually buy music don't care much about "music". I know it sounds strange but what I'm saying is that they care more about who's making it (is he or she cute) than if it was well composed or written.
Sure, the pop (etc) music industry is superficial in many ways. And I don't expect Logic to write Chopin preludes or play Jarrett solos for me. But what I used to like about Apple, is that they were thinking "different". Jobs used to quoted Henry Ford ("If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses"), and IMO, Ford's view can be transferred to the music market: people shouldn't always be given what they already know they want, but provide something new, refreshing, original. But the way the Logic product designers plan updates, they keep making Logic easier to use for most users (which is brilliant, of course), but they don't make Logic easier to use for many of those who think different (within or outside the hyper-commercial market). So IMO it's not about amateur vs pro. or commercial vs non-commercial, but simply about...making sense.
Why can't we trust that Logic's score editor always show all the notes you just recorded? (Because it doesn't handle accidentals well). Why can't Logic show a simple E major triad, (one the most used chord in commercial music) correctly - even after 2-3 decades of development? Why are they waiting so long with implementing something like Cubase's expression maps? *Lots of * people use orchestral samples, even in plain commercial pop music. But articulation control, an essential part of making/faking orchestral is still in it's childhood in Logic, come 7 years after it was implemented. Why can't I, if I get a good idea when working on a song or just improvise, store that (single or multitrack, MIDI or audio) as an ide in some kind of pool which is accessible from within all songs (without having to save each idea as a separate song which you may not even be able to open in future versions of Logic)? Why can't I simply edit a MIDI note in a piano chord in any editor, and optionally hear all the other notes in that chord as I try different pitches for the one I'm editing?
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Some DAW companies realized (some more than others) they don't have to just sell their products to musicians and artists (who actually know what they're doing). So, they started making their DAWs, let's say, more user friendly and it in most cases benefitted everyone. Logic is built for the casual to intermediate musician which is really most of the market. Pro Tools and Cubase are more geared towards intermediate advanced and advanced users (though Cubase has tried to work on "dumbing down" their interface).
The features/improvements I mentioned above are basic features which would be welcomed by all kinds of musicians, beginners or oldies.
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Cubase is more "nuance based" than Logic which is simplified.
Apple can afford - and have the talent to - make a DAW which is both nuanced based in simple. They're just not as interested in this as they are in recruiting Pro Tools and GarageBand users.