I didnt say 1300, that was the N12 cost with all that stuff.

anyway, it is what it is, in opinion they are missing a large part of their user base. If they dont want to do it thats fine. the Artist stuff is nowhere near as well built as the yamaha was i had. or the mixed logic. again the point is yamaha makes this stuff all the time

anyway, you have your opinion and i have mine. you dont speak for them anymore than i do. i will continue to espouse this as long as i feel this way.

i guess im wondering how presonus, with a smaller user base supposedly came out with a really nice controller

i guess they decided they could do live and S1 users all in one, and they have a full range of live mixers. presonus is far more forward thinking on this than yamaha is i think