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Old 25th February 2009 | Show parent
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Billy Cobham - drums
Ron Carter - bass
Airto Moreira - Percussion
Joe Zawinul - Rhodes
Stan Turrentine - Tenor Sax
Cannonball Adderley - Alto sax
Freddie Hubbard - Trumpet
Grant Green - guitar
Bobby Hutcherson - vibes

Perfect!
Old 25th February 2009 | Show parent
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What would happen if you put KIETH JARRETT with Elvin Jones and Eddie Gomez? I would be great. You probably would not want any other players.
Old 25th February 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Max The Dog ➑️
What would happen if you put KIETH JARRETT with Elvin Jones and Eddie Gomez? I would be great. You probably would not want any other players.
Good luck getting Jarrett to play with anyone else. With Jarrett it always seems to have to be on his terms. I don't get the feeling he's the greatest team player. That's why I left him out. I would love to have heard the combination though.
Old 26th February 2009 | Show parent
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Good luck getting Jarrett to play with anyone else. With Jarrett it always seems to have to be on his terms. I don't get the feeling he's the greatest team player. That's why I left him out. I would love to have heard the combination though.
YEah, I'm not big on divas, but for Jarrett, I think it would be worth it.
Old 26th February 2009 | Show parent
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Yeah. But I'd rather hear Chick with Elvin anyway. They both have Coltrane language between them. I can't even hear Elvin and Jarrett. I'm sure they'd have made it work well. As sweet a guy as Elvin was, I'm not sure he'd have put up with him.
Old 26th February 2009 | Show parent
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Miles was the only person that could tell Keith Jarrett what to do.

He got the reluctant Jarrett playing a Fender Rhodes through a distorted guitar amp and a ring-mod - I guess Miles was difficult to say no to!

I love the free form stuff with Gary Peacock and Jack de Johnette (who needs a chord chart?).

My only caveat with Keith Jarrett is that somebody should hide his soprano sax!

Last edited by CREAMY WILLIAMS; 26th February 2009 at 10:18 AM.. Reason: typo
Old 26th February 2009 | Show parent
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hmm Fun topic, allthough the great jazzbands have been already.
And as they are all quite the character I don't know if mingling them just like that together would produce fine music.

but anyway.
On the drums I would have Tony Williams or Elvin Jones
Bass : Mingus or Ron Carter
Horns : well yeah Miles, Eric Dolphy, Charlie Parker & Coltrane
Piano : Bill Evans & Monk

& Sun Ra front of stage dancing around!

what a clash of styles...
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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Joe Henderson
Lee Morgan
Kenny Burrell
Dave Brubeck
Ron Carter
Art Blakey

basically a Blakey band+2.
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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hmm Fun topic, allthough the great jazzbands have been already.
And as they are all quite the character I don't know if mingling them just like that together would produce fine music.

but anyway.
On the drums I would have Tony Williams or Elvin Jones
Bass : Mingus or Ron Carter
Horns : well yeah Miles, Eric Dolphy, Charlie Parker & Coltrane
Piano : Bill Evans & Monk

& Sun Ra front of stage dancing around!

what a clash of styles...
I guess my original point of discussion was not really who was great or who would be great together, although that is fun. The real point was: What group that you would put together would DEFINE jazz in the 20th century. 1 player on each instrument, THE BAND that would explain to a novice what JAZZ is (or was).

You could arguably go to Louis Armstrong and Davey Tough and some tuba and Stride Piano guys.
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Max The Dog ➑️
I guess my original point of discussion was not really who was great or who would be great together, although that is fun. The real point was: What group that you would put together would DEFINE jazz in the 20th century. 1 player on each instrument, THE BAND that would explain to a novice what JAZZ is (or was).

You could arguably go to Louis Armstrong and Davey Tough and some tuba and Stride Piano guys.
I don't know if there could be one group of people that could define jazz like that, do you? I mean, there are so many different styles and they're all pretty cool.

Batchainpuller, I like your list, it's a bit like mine actually.
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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I think the most typical jazz group was Miles' first quintet with Trane, Red Garland, Paul Chambers, and Philly Joe. That for me was the equilibrium point in jazz, much like Beethoven in classical.

But the idea of who we'd like to hear together was fun too.

Last edited by Dave Hoffman; 27th February 2009 at 07:21 AM.. Reason: typo
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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To me, the closest to the perfect jazz group was the one right after that Miles Quintet; the Miles Davis Sextet that included Cannonball Adderly and Bill Evans, along with Coltrane, Philly Jo Jones and Paul Chambers. The only crime with that band was that it was grossly under recorded. We have Kind of Blue, Milestones, Jazz at the Plaza, Live at Newport '58. Come on, I hope somewhere there's a vault with another 12 sides yet too be discovered.
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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We have Kind of Blue, Milestones, Jazz at the Plaza, Live at Newport '58. Come on, I hope somewhere there's a vault with another 12 sides yet too be discovered.
JATP was one of my 1st jazz LP's - kinda terrifying as a kid, but - then came Monk...
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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To me, the closest to the perfect jazz group was the one right after that Miles Quintet; the Miles Davis Sextet that included Cannonball Adderly and Bill Evans, along with Coltrane, Philly Jo Jones and Paul Chambers. The only crime with that band was that it was grossly under recorded. We have Kind of Blue, Milestones, Jazz at the Plaza, Live at Newport '58. Come on, I hope somewhere there's a vault with another 12 sides yet too be discovered.
I have to agree with you, the Kind Of Blue line up would surely be an iconic representation of that period. And for the time after that, if I had to pick one group that actually recorded together it would be the HEAVY WEATHER Weather Report.
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max The Dog ➑️
I guess my original point of discussion was not really who was great or who would be great together, although that is fun. The real point was: What group that you would put together would DEFINE jazz in the 20th century. 1 player on each instrument, THE BAND that would explain to a novice what JAZZ is (or was).

You could arguably go to Louis Armstrong and Davey Tough and some tuba and Stride Piano guys.
OOh okay, well no need for a fantasy jazz band then, just start indeed with the stride piano player and follow up on how Jazz has developed up to the point somewhere early 70's by all the players mentioned in this thread.
Isn't that why we have Recorded music?
Old 27th February 2009 | Show parent
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I have to agree with you, the Kind Of Blue line up would surely be an iconic representation of that period. And for the time after that, if I had to pick one group that actually recorded together it would be the HEAVY WEATHER Weather Report.
to both!

Also the Cannonball Adderley sextet with Zawinul and Lateef are as good as it gets.
Old 13th April 2009 | Show parent
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o.k. I get it.

to sum up the historical significance of jazz in the 20th century?

Elvin Jones on drums.

Charlie Mingus on bass (he would bring a lot to the table in addition to his playing)

Mike Stern on guitar

Dave Brubek on Piano

Trane on sax

Chet Baker on trumpet.

That would be an interesting group.
Old 15th April 2009 | Show parent
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I wanna see this picture of Parker and Coltrane! Where can I find it?
Check out young Trane, stage left. I love this picture. I can't tell whether that's admiration on his face or fear!


There is no real best all-star lineup but I'd kill to hear this band:

Piano- McCoy Tyner
Bass- Charles Mingus
Drums- Tony Williams
Tenor Sax- Sonny Rollins
Trumpet- Woody Shaw
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Old 26th July 2010 | Show parent
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Drums - Vinnie (or Paolo Vinaccia when Vinnie is bussy)

Perc - Pete Lockett

Bass - Tal Wilkenfeld (Jimmy Johnson would work out as well)

Keys - Herbie

Trumpet - Arve Henriksen

Remix - Jan Bang

Vocals - Solveig Slettahjel or Beate Slettvold Lech(Beady Belle)

Guitars - Myself
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Drums - Vinnie (or Paolo Vinaccia when Vinnie is bussy)

Perc - Pete Lockett

Bass - Tal Wilkenfeld (Jimmy Johnson would work out as well)

Keys - Herbie

Trumpet - Arve Henriksen

Remix - Jan Bang

Vocals - Solveig Slettahjel or Beate Slettvold Lech(Beady Belle)

Guitars - Myself
Well, I guess the thread title was indeed, "YOUR Fantasy Jazz Band".....
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Guitars - Frank Zappa & John Schofield (both must be wearing leather pants) this is fantasy right heh

Piano - Chic Chorea

Trumpet - Miles at some young age

Bass - Paul Jackson & Jaco

Drums - Buddy Rich & Vinnie Coaluta

Sax - Kenny Garrett wearing some african stuff...

Singer - can get ****ed...
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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accordeon- Luciano Biondini
trombone- GianLuca Petrella
sax and whatever else-Jo Doherty
sax and whatever else- Paolo Innnarella (or Marcello Bizzarri)
Basso tuba and whatever else- Michel Goddard
tromba, digeridu- David Boato
percussioni- Jarrod Cagwin
pecussioni- Simone Haggiag
percussioni- rojo (me)
arrangiamenti-rojo
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Or Gavino Murgia for either sax player or plus, he can sing profundo basso too.
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Well, this is kind of stupid but I'll bite anyway.

Firstly, if I'm gonna put together a fantasy band of musicians, they should be like-minded. So for a swinging big band, here is one option with alternates in parentheses. Actually, you could mix-and-match any of these cats and you'll be well on your way.

Alto 1-Johnny Hodges (Marshal Royal)
Alto 2-Benny Carter (Earl Warren)
Tenor 1-Lester Young (Budd Johnson)
Tenor 2-Ben Webster (Coleman Hawkins)
Baritone Harry Carney (Haywood Henry)

Trombone 1 Lawrence Brown (Britt Woodman)
Trombone 2 Butter Jackson (Al Gray)
Trombone 3 Jack Teagarten (Tyree Glenn)


Trumpet 1 Snooky Young (Ernie Royal)
Trumpet 2 Clark Terry (Cootie Williams)
Trumpet 3 Charlie Shavers (Roy Eldrige)
Trumpet 4 Sweets Edison (Joe Newman)

Rhythm guitar Freddie Green (Lawrence Lucie)
Piano Duke (Fats Waller or Basie)
bass Oscar Pettiford (Walter Page)
drums Jo Jones (Gus Johnson)

And now, a Be-bop big band

Alto 1 Phil Woods (Jerome Richardson)
Alto 2 Bird (Sonny Stitt)
Tenor 1 Gene Ammons (Lucky Thompson)
Tenor 2 Don Byas ( Zoot Sims)
Baritone Gerry Mulligan (Danny Bank)

trombone 1 Urbie Green (Henry Coker)
trombone 2 JJ Johnson (Bennie Green)
trombone 3 Slide Hampton (Jimmy Knepper)

trumpet 1 Snooky Young (Ernie Royal)* best 2 lead men ever
Trumpet 2 Dizzy (Donald Byrd)
Trumpet 3 Fats Navarro (Kenny Dorham)
Trumpet 4 Clifford Brown (Miles)

electric guitar Wes Montgomery (Joe Pass)
Piano Roland Hannah (Hank Jones)
bass Paul Chambers (Wilbur Ware)
drums Charlie Persip (Mel Lewis)


I would attempt to put together a more "modern" fantasy band but I think I've "geeked out" enough already.
Old 27th July 2010
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You've got 3/4 of Weather Report in there.

Jaco and Miles would NOT get along. Mr. Control with Mr. Amok. Not a chance.

Maybe I lack imagination, but the Bitches Brew band is hard to beat. Can't get more magical than that. I wish McLaughlin still played guitar in that style sometimes (Fender Mustang, it twas.)
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Talking OK, I'll play...

Johnny Hodges-Alto Sax
Dexter Gordon-Tenor Sax
Billy Taylor- Piano
Rufus Reid- Bass
Billy Kilson- Drums

Not only great players but great communicators as well.

peace,
Rob
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Coltrane
Tyner
Garrison
Jones


...end of story

Oh, wait! That's a real band!
Old 27th July 2010 | Show parent
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Piano: Evans, Tyner, or Jarrett
Bass: Carter or LaFaro
Drums: Tony Williams
Old 25th December 2011 | Show parent
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Elvin Jones + Pete Rock --Drums, Samples

(post-LSD) John Coltrane --Tenor Saxophone

Michel Chion/William Burroughs --Samples/Noise/Cut-Ups

John Cage --Muting Things (Bandleader)

Vangelis + Art of Noise + Brian Eno --Synth/Textures/FX

Sun Ra --Vocals Keys


Joujouka in the background.
Old 25th December 2011 | Show parent
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probably pat metheny on guitars, john coltrane on sax, miles on trumpet, de johnette or perhaps roy haynes or antonio sanchez on drums, eddie gomez or jaco on bass, chick corea on piano
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