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Shockmount solution for Coles 4038 Blumlein
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  #31
Gear Maniac
 
I suspect you'll find the elastic suspension to be your best bet in this situation. Would probably make most of what's in your second suggestion unnecessary.
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  #32
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🎧 10 years
Strategically sized and placed small squares of carpet or mats can also reduce foot and pedalling sounds...placed under the feet of the performers (as well as the mic tripod feet !)

Sometimes you can get more effective damping by inverting, and letting the 'fibre side' contact the floor, as the bristles spread the vibrations over the whole surface area...experiment and see what works best.
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  #33
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I record in a Town Hall with a sprung dancing floor, I persuade the authorities to reduce the suspension to zero for music events with no dancing...
Its a very elaborate Edwardian mechanism in the basement.
I tried the USM -VB for my PGS RIBBONS, no go, too heavy.
Better a bungee somehow or Cathedral Stand with heavy base, they work well.
Roger
The AEA SMS Bar looks v sensible.
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  #34
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Originally Posted by Rolo 46 ➡️
I record in a Town Hall with a sprung dancing floor, I persuade the authorities to reduce the suspension to zero for music events with no dancing...
Its a very elaborate Edwardian mechanism in the basement.
I'm imagining something like this, on a bigger scale, in the basement.....
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  #35
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Found this photo of a Keith Johnson session with Blumlein Coles' on the piano - quite a rig!
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  #36
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No good for public performance, too fragile.
They should be on that parquet floor in the centre of the hall....
Thats the place for a good recording.
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  #37
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In the previous thread about rigid vs flexible shockmounts, a letter by Chris Woolf was posted by Hugh Robjohns in which Chris reports that he got some specially made heavier duty lyres for a Rycote USM shockmount that worked very well for his 4038’s. I would recommend that those who have 4038’s contact tech support ( who I have always found very responsive) to see if they can get this heavier duty version.
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"They should be on that parquet floor in the centre of the hall....
Thats the place for a good recording."

That was my first thought as well.

And look at that cute little talkback speaker.

D.
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  #39
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One possibility is that musicians generally prefer to play with a wall about 8-10' behind them; to do this out in the main floor would put them nearly under the continuous balcony overhang, which might not sound so hot.

I imagine the talkback was self-built, like most of KJ's gear.
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Originally Posted by Rolo 46 ➡️
No good for public performance, too fragile.
They should be on that parquet floor in the centre of the hall....
Thats the place for a good recording.
Like the Concertgebouworkest did in the past.
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  #41
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Did that in Kingsway Hall, as well, which also had a balcony all the way around; that was for full orch, don't know about chamber groups.
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  #42
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It was standard Decca practice to extend stages sometimes at v hi cost.
A parquet floor seems very sensible alternative.
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