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Using low placement for main array?
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No I am unable as well
Thank You ! I have send a pm to the moderator if they can check what the problem is.
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Very low placement, 2 Schoeps BLM3 80-90cm A-B on the floor.

I have up loaded a wav file, but at my place Gearspace does not allow me to listen to it, can You ?
I can hear it fine.

It's the "Where are the clowns" melody.
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Thank You ! I have send a pm to the moderator if they can check what the problem is.
It’s fun thanks
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Sounds excellent to me despite the vagaries of GS software
Understated and precise playing and a mellow and detailed diffuse soundstage
Well done all.
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Originally Posted by Orgeltonmeister ➡️
Very low placement, 2 Schoeps BLM3 80-90cm A-B on the floor.

I have up loaded a wav file, but at my place Gearspace does not allow me to listen to it, can You ?
I was able to listen it Orgeltonmeister. I had to open it in another tab...

.wav files don't seem to work as well as MP3 at Gearspace (although they sound better).
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I was able to listen it Orgeltonmeister. I had to open it in another tab...

.wav files don't seem to work as well as MP3 at Gearspace (although they sound better).
That was what it did last night also, it opened in another tab from itself, but than it changed into a playback icon crossed with a line. Now I tried again, and it worked. Before I posted this I searched for others here on the forum that also posted wav. files that workd out for me OK, and found one. Maybe my pm helped.

BTW, it was recorded with a PCM-F1 in 1989 !!!
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That was what it did last night also, it opened in another tab from itself, but than it changed into a playback icon crossed with a line. Now I tried again, and it worked. Before I posted this I searched for others here on the forum that also posted wav. files that workd out for me OK, and found one. Maybe my pm helped.

BTW, it was recorded with a PCM-F1 in 1989 !!!
WAVs don't play in the GS player, but will play in your browser, depending on how it is configured. (When a QuickTime plugin is in place it will always play without problems.) Normally I download WAV- and AIF-files and play them in my player of choice, outside my browser.

Nice and typical sound of BLMs, by the way. I love to use BLMs for room support a lot.
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Nice and typical sound of BLMs, by the way. I love to use BLMs for room support a lot.
I have the same experience, the BLM3 is an excellent room/reverb microphone.

In the following example I used BLM's as reverb microphone, and as I remember well, the amount of level of the BLM's was quite substantial, but it is a while ago, I think this recording was made somewhere in 1987 or 88.
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Here are a few! Main mics only need to be high if they are required to be high to get the right balance (like for a deep ensemble).





Works with instruments too.

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There are also comb filtering (acoustic physics) reasons to avoid low placement....or else to go really low (ie on the nearest boundary) to minimise them.... but then perhaps lose presence, due to increased distance from source to mic ? : https://www.prosoundweb.com/putting-...-on-the-floor/
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There are also comb filtering (acoustic physics) reasons to avoid low placement....or else to go really low (ie on the nearest boundary) to minimise them.... but then perhaps lose presence, due to increased distance from source to mic ? : https://www.prosoundweb.com/putting-...-on-the-floor/
technically correct...

...but far from reality.

if results would be as bad as the graph might imply, how comes that billions of recordings were done with mics in exactly this position? imo not all recordings done this way sound plain horrible...

there are even reasons to go with such a position, as much as to use an even lower placement or a much higher placement or to put mics on the floor:

ANY position/distance to the floor (or to the ceiling...) has its own set of issues but also unique qualities - personally, i like results from positioning my main mic system (often ortf or m/s) at ear height, at least when recording smaller ensembles, and mostly prefer it over results from mics flown high up the air.

here's a pic (from a soundceck) two days ago: schoeps ortf on a small k&m mic stand; spots were dpa clips, ambis were a pair of (the venue's fixed installed) akg's, possibly 451's, flown ca. 4,5m above the floor (ambis can hardly be seen from this perspective).
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