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Old 25th June 2020
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Question Solo piano omni mics smallish room

6.5 foot grand piano in a smallish room with some realtraps treatment. A last minute recording request so not huge time to experiment. Will stereo omni pair work well? Or is it usually stereo cardioid?

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Old 11th July 2020
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What did you do...? How did it sound...?

A pair of omnis (I regularly use a pair of DPA4061 miniatures) inside the lid can work just fine, with proper placement, and the lid down, or on short stick, if the room klang still gets into the recording.

Sorry this is late... would like to know what and how...

HB
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Originally Posted by hbphotoav ➡️
What did you do...? How did it sound...?

A pair of omnis (I regularly use a pair of DPA4061 miniatures) inside the lid can work just fine, with proper placement, and the lid down, or on short stick, if the room klang still gets into the recording.

Sorry this is late... would like to know what and how...

HB
Thanks for the input. I've just noticed this is a double posting, not sure how that happened.

Anyway if you check the other thread of same title there is an mp3 of my recording and details of what I used.

I'd like to invest in some miniature mics at some point. Next time I will try the lid on shortest stick.
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A Ha. I missed the earlier post... My general grand piano mic'ing (especially on reinforcement gigs) is a single DPA4061 taped to the frame at the point the low and high strings cross, with the element about 3cm above the frame member. When I do a "stereo" coverage, I do a gaff tape "bridge" across the frame 20-30cm "back" from the hammers, with the 4061 elements at 1/3-2/3 across the width, lid up or down, depending on the situation. Nice "natural" presentation of the piano, with very little EQ or feedback suppression needed. It's not a "Elton John" kind of sound... just what the instrument sounds like, with very little interaction with the environment. When I'm in a decent space, I use a pair of SDCs in a 20-30cm AB placed "up and out" from the open lid to taste.

I was taught the DPAs "trick" by my pal Rich Mays (Sonare), who explained that the 4060/61 were extremely "flat" response and, being inside the "box", any "small mic self-noise" was inconsequential. I've never had an instance over the decade I've been doing this of a pianist or choir director being anything but complimentary of the sound.

Anyway... cheers!

HB
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