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Old 21st December 2019
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Pearl ELM-B (figure 8) users?

Is anyone here using this specific model?

I've seen some clearly well-deserved praise and heard some nice samples from Pearl's older and more well-known models, but as far as I can recall I have not seen or heard anything specifically about this (comparatively) new mic. It is one of the most intriguing to me personally.

Thanks in advance for any info/samples/thoughts.
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Old 21st December 2019
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I was very interested in this mic also, and did a little bit of digging to try to establish whether it has a true figure-8 capsule like the Sennheiser MKH30, or back-to-back cardioids like most multi-pattern mics. As far as I can tell it is the latter but I can't remember where I found this information or how reliable it is, sorry.
Old 21st December 2019
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Hmm, yes that appears likely when the other two models in the series are a cardioid model and the 2-channel-output version which obviously has two capsules. I have emailed Pearl directly for clarification and will share here what I learn.
Old 21st December 2019
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The Pearl ELMs are all the same dual diaphragm Braunmühl-Weber capsule concept.

This - https://www.amazon.com/Gustav-Mahler.../dp/B0009PLM1W / https://open.spotify.com/album/2hfOx...QsaYDYoX9kTr2w - was recorded with a Blumlein pair of ELM-Bs, and you can find other recordings by Kavi Alexander using this setup.
Old 23rd December 2019
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I have the Pearl DS60 which is essentially two ELM's on one stick. It is four cardioid mics. It's characteristics are that it has a ribbon-like sound and is quite kind to voices and strings. I have had good luck with it. It is a fine mic. One caution, the membrane surface the main cardioid must be at a 90 degree angle to the sound source for best captured sound. It does not "hear" above and below the vertical membrane surface very well. It does hear horizontally quite well.

Cheers
Old 23rd December 2019 | Show parent
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I have the Pearl DS60 which is essentially two ELM's on one stick.
No, it's not - the DS60 uses the smaller capsules found in the 22 series and the TL44.

The 7:1 length:width capsules in the ELM series deliberately increase the differences in vertical vs horizontal directivity that you mention.
Old 23rd December 2019
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I own 2 x ELM-B's

Have had them on the drum kit as my main mic's for quite a few years now.

One over the Floor tom facing the snare, and the other over the Rac, as my main drum mics.
They also excel on Acoustic guitars!

I love them.
Old 25th December 2019 | Show parent
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I own 2 x ELM-B's

I love them.
Could you elaborate a little on how you find the pretty unique directivity of these mics? Any modifications to your usual techniques to take this into account, any situations in which they have been particularly useful for this reason?

i.e. compared to more traditional figure 8 ribbons or (circular diaphragm) condensers.

Thanks!
Old 25th December 2019 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by lukedamrosch ➡️
Could you elaborate a little on how you find the pretty unique directivity of these mics? Any modifications to your usual techniques to take this into account, any situations in which they have been particularly useful for this reason?

i.e. compared to more traditional figure 8 ribbons or (circular diaphragm) condensers.

Thanks!
Some reviews might help: https://www.audiotechnology.com/revi...ule-microphone
https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/gear...ity-microphone
See if you can find Greg Simmons (Simmosonic) review of the ELM-C in issue 85 of Audio Technology magazine.
Sound On Sound has some good reviews of the ELM series:

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pearl-elm-c

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/pearl-elm

According to the above reviews, positioning of a rectangular diaphragm mic is paramount, and requires some expertise to get right, to utilise the differential pickup sensitivity correctly

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Old 25th December 2019
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Unique with a Larger then life sound.

Luke,
Once you get a handle on their pattern specifics, you can use it to really focus the mic's directivity on whatever you record.

For example, using 2 x ELM's on a singer songwriter,
one on Vocal and one on Acoustic guitar, you can setup the mic's in the vertical position so that their pickup above & below the mic is very limited, but the sound right out front is picked up beautifully.

Now if the vocalist has a tendency to move his head up or down while performing, just turn the mic 90 degrees, set it up horizontally, and angle the mic slightly as to place it's null at the guitar, which would allow for a more consistent Vocal pickup while still rejecting most of the guitar....

I've also had great success with these on Toms, (Rac & Floor),
for Acoustic rock, / Americana type Rock N Roll.
(as long as the drummer isn't a total basher!)
Cause they can overload in that scenario

But by using their directional characteristics, I can control the amount of Cymbal bleed compared to the actual Tom pickup very nicely, and they sound great in this position.

When using them for vocals, care MUST be taken as they are very prone to pops, due to that large diaphragm.
I use a small foam Pop filter that I can slide over the to of the mic, works fine.

Very, unique microphones, with a very natural but LARGE sound!
Old 25th December 2019
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I understand ribbons have some similar directivity, I wonder how a small body long ribbon compares to an ELM in that regard.
Old 25th December 2019
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nobtwiddler,

Thanks for this, I appreciate it!

One further question -- while I assume the nulls themselves are predictably deep, how do you find their off-axis response/coloration as you begin moving towards the nulls? Particularly on the vertical/narrower axis.
Old 26th December 2019
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Emrr,
Since I have a few long ribbons also, I can tell you they behave quite similarly!

But the Pearls have a more defined edge, where the audio pickup just seems to stop!
Old 31st December 2019
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Hi all,

Just an update that I will be demoing a pair of these sometime next month. I plan to do a fairly comprehensive test, both putting the ELM-Bs through their paces and testing some mic techniques I have been working on lately.

The only figure 8s I have to make a direct comparison against the Pearls are a pair of Schoeps MK8, and I will undoubtedly do this in a couple of configurations -- spaced, Blumlein, etc.

Space will likely be a decent, though not spectacular chapel, with a Steinway D that is far from ready for prime-time at the Concertgebouw but should suffice for a reasonable comparison.

If anyone else here is curious to hear the ELM-Bs in some configuration which I might not otherwise try, please feel free to make your request and I will do my best to include this in the test.
Old 31st December 2019
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Most if not all are on the Pearl website.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by studer58 ➡️
See if you can find Greg Simmons (Simmosonic) review of the ELM-C in issue 85 of Audio Technology magazine.
Here it is:

https://issuu.com/alchemedia/docs/at85

It’s on page 82 or thereabouts...
Old 26th February 2020
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It's great to read how different users are working with the ELM mics. Thank you for sharing.

We have found many customers in the classical/opera segment where the ELM-series is popular because they can record what's happening on the stage beautifully while rejecting unwanted reflections from the floor and ceiling. I think the San Francisco Symphony owns at least nine Pearl ELM's; the Royal Opera in Stockholm has at least five ELM-C's and we just sold a whole bunch to the opera in Malmö, Sweden - just to mention a few.
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What is the difference in construction and sound between the Pearl ELM C and Pearl CC 22?
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What is the difference in construction and sound between the Pearl ELM C and Pearl CC 22?
Take a look at Greg Simmons review in post #17
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