Thank you very much for this, helpful to see it in action. Just to make sure I am not misinterpreting some of the various combinations which are possible with the Manfrotto stands, extensions, etc. would you happen to know the specific part numbers for the various elements of the whole setup (stand, boom, etc.)

Many thanks!

Manfrotto 270BSU Stand

The AEA Boom incorporates the Manfrotto 123 Pivot and possibly the Avenger Alum 35 stand.

The stand and boom are awesome. The stand comes with the universal head. If you get it you can add various impact or avenger booms that are not too expensive.

The boom is from AEA and is no longer available.

Wonderful, thanks very much!

Out of curiosity, have you used a comparable system from K&M? For example, stand model 20811 and boom 21231. I'm planning to get either this or the Manfrotto one sometime this summer...

I never used the k&m. It seems really nice. My rig can fly some sophisticated structures which I have used.

I use the Manfrotto MA1004BAC, the Avenger (Manfrotto) 0045B (pictured in my multi boom surround rig pictured on the previous page here), and the K&M 20811. They're very different, with the 1004BAC lite duty, and the 20811 taller and heavy duty.

You're welcome to try them out Luke if you drive down to Marshfield.

Tom

If anyone's interested in a stand that'll get your mics (and/or camera) up to 23.9 feet or 7.3 metres, here's your solution. Nice wide footprint for the feet, and 3 levelling legs. Ideal for organ recordings (if you insist on height for these !)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_KFu7lZ3P1c

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbrj1Ea0Jp4

this looks superb. Any prices to go with it?

You'd need to find out your importer/distributor...or it might be cheaper to buy direct or by Amazon, I don't know what their distribution chain is ? I think the brand is known in A/V circles...maybe start with the company website and work outwards. I downloaded a very comprehensive PDF catalogue of their product range, and they're Taiwan based (good to support the 'other China' !)

In reply to a price query on the YouTube video comments section, they say "thanks for message. Please contact us by this e-mail address : [email protected] for further information"

Here's their product page: http://www.grip.com.tw/index.php?opt...=80&Itemid=101
Company history: http://www.grip.com.tw/index.php?opt...d=9&Itemid=134

Nice that it folds down to 174cms and comes with a carry bag, weighs 11.3kg

Their website quote $599.

It is like the Manfrotto 269 but not as substantial and a little less $.

for example the kupo’s footprint is ~43” and the Manfrotto’s footprint is ~68”

Here in the Netherlands the Manfrotto 269hdbu seems to THE standard for organ recordings.
And only €329 at Thomann’s.

That’s the one with one leveling leg and the regular multi receiver on top

I ve just bought a K&M 300mm Base plate , weight 4.3kg, for 30 quid
Im adapting my 3 section 5' Panamic Boom to screw into the base hopefully.
I have shorter 3 section Panamic poles that also can screw onto the 5' boom giving 21'.
Its unlikely that I will extend that high, the idea is for a visually less obvious stand than my Arri or Doughty C stands and booms.

Roger

Roger, if you're prepared to brand hop for a moment, Gravity have a centre-of-gravity trick up their sleeve in the form of Vari-Weights plates...no tools necessary !

If the threads and clearances involved happily match...you might even be able to add 2.3kg to your existing K+M stand ?

Better explained in their videos than by me...cheap enough too, and easy to remove when necessary...see below.

https://youtu.be/p2ISXiT7jV4

https://youtu.be/jNX4ENFrW7M

Prices and sources:



https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1364521-REG/gravity_stands_gms2wp_weight_plate_for_round.html

https://www.gravitystands.com/en/pro.../12003/ms-2-wp

"This 2.3 kg weight disc made of cast iron can be mounted on all Gravity microphone stands with a round base, ensuring a particularly high level of stability.

VARI-WEIGHT® – patented stability system for secure holding and simple transportation by means of an insertable weight disc"

I have this, it goes to about 6 m with the boom vertical. In addition I have a DIY carbon fibre tube extension about 1.5 m long; total 7.5 m or so. Have to admit it is a bit wobbly fully extended, but settles down in about 15 seconds. Can handle a Soundfield and two stereo pairs all at once.

My adaptor is been machined soon.
Panamic Cathedral Stand for beer budget.
I have some weights from a Zip Up shelter that will fit the base Studer and I see K&M do something similar to Gravity.
I will post pics when my Boom adaptor materialises.
Roger

Adaptor has arrived, very snug fit for the Panamic.
Can use both long and short poles into the base, very portable and stable.

It looks nice, how stable is it with a pair of (pricey mkh) mics on it?

Its good for a MKH80/30 indoors
I will sand bag it for live performance.

How about a couple of 10 kg barbell weight plates?

Rolo, what a beautiful countryside you're living in!

I believe I have found an excellent item to help with small-footprint / very tall stands: a 21 lb rubber plate made for securing pop-up tent canopies. The 2.5 in slot will fit nicely around vertical stand poles, and with the whole thing being made of rubber it should stay in place nicely.

Rolo mentioned weights from a zip-up shelter for his new stand. I wonder if he is using something like this?

You can buy direct from the manufacturer, but shipping costs are exorbitant. Instead, this eBay seller is much cheaper when you factor in that they offer free shipping, and nice small-volume discounts. 84 lbs of these plates for just over $100 US seems like a good deal to me.

I am going to get one of these to use on my small stand base.

A great find voltronic !

Yes my PopUp canopy has 4 such weights, v useful.

Yes my PopUp canopy has 4 such weights, v useful.

There's a relatively tall (3 metre) K&M mic stand vertical extension tube which can be attached to a variety of K&M square or circular bases to lend weight and stability to the stand (pictured in first two links below) . It's reasonably priced too:

https://www.k-m.de/en/products/mic-s...k/26007-319-55

https://www.thomannmusic.com/km_26007.htm#bewertung

30cm diameter base: https://www.k-m.de/en/kmPdf/datashee...r/26009-000-56

45cm diameter base: https://www.k-m.de/en/kmPdf/datashee...r/26700-000-56

7kg baseplate: https://www.k-m.de/en/products/speak...r=26703-000-56

13.5kg baseplate: https://www.k-m.de/en/products/speak...r=26705-000-56


For most near coincident SD mic pairs this product should be fine...for heavier mics or wider AB bars a weighted sand or lead shot bag at the base would lend greater stability.

If another metre of height is desired, you could simply add this K&M extension rod:
https://www.k-m.de/en/kmPdf/datashee...r/20005-300-55

Only organ recording folk are likely to want greater altitude (unless the recording scenario gives you a raised stage, with no option of locating your stands upon it. Being forced to use the floor below can easily lose you 3 to 4 feet of stand height..which is where that 1metre extension rod can help...)

I was just on Thomann yesterday to order some #26007 !

And lo and behold, the checkout page told me that they were not shipping to "my address" in the United States. Does anyone else know if there is some kind of shipping issue between DE and USA? I have been waiting on a response from Thomann but nothing yet. Maybe one of you know?

I'm wondering how safe it is to move tall stands with maybe stereo bars setup to explore positions in the room. Or would you lower it before moving? Is it ok to have the microphones live while moving?
I'm planning to train assistant (my brother) for my exploring progress when I come to new room.

I’m a little surprised the k&m extension are being recommended for stereo bars, for the long length mentioned. They are described by k&m, as a method to fly a WiFi ant high but a stereo bar, I would be very hesitant, consider it and then I would not do it.

hi emenelton, I'm not using k&m extension but I currently have the Rode Stereo Bar but as I'm mostly recording pipe organ and choirs I'm also looking for wider bars. But still my question remains if it's safe to move tall stands with stereo bars and live microphones. I would mostly do this during the experiment phase.

The prices for those K&M base plates are shockingly high. We're approaching Panamic Cathedral Stand levels of over-pricing.

Actually, it looks like the Panamic uses the K&M 26700 as its base. Product weights check out.