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Old 28th January 2013
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Goldbaby samples or PSP mixpack

Hi
I want some good drum samples for Hip Hop, I heard that goldbaby are very good, just want to ask about goldbaby, they are ready to use samples ?processed? With compressors ? It means I dont need to do anythink when I mix my track? I mean compressor, eq?

I had demo of PSP mix saturator, it gives this nice sound to my drums, awesome
And now i dont know, Whats better to buy, this samples from goldbaby, or buy PSP mixpack 2 to saturate samples, IF I buy goldbaby I dont need PSP tape saturator for drums??

Thanks
Old 28th January 2013
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which daw do you use?
Old 28th January 2013
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if your about mixing get the plugins...but if your about writing music get the samples
Old 28th January 2013
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Originally Posted by simon_rst ➑️
Hi
I want some good drum samples for Hip Hop, I heard that goldbaby are very good, just want to ask about goldbaby, they are ready to use samples ?processed? With compressors ? It means I dont need to do anythink when I mix my track? I mean compressor, eq?

I had demo of PSP mix saturator, it gives this nice sound to my drums, awesome
And now i dont know, Whats better to buy, this samples from goldbaby, or buy PSP mixpack 2 to saturate samples, IF I buy goldbaby I dont need PSP tape saturator for drums??

Thanks
I'd get Sounds in HD or Sonic Specialists packs both over Goldbaby any day... much better drums.
Old 28th January 2013
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I think both have demos available.
Old 28th January 2013
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These are two completely different approaches.

You mean, which should you get 1st?

Goldbaby samples sound good, are ready to go, and are pretty inspiring in themselves. However, (imo) they tend towards the dirty, gritty side of percussion. The only control you have over the samples is choosing between which type of dirt. He did the processing and took it out of your hands.

If you have some time to play, you can spend ages finding the right sample drums, and play with different sat/dist processing at your own leisure, and sculpt them to fit into your track of any genre.

Really you should think about your immediate vs. your long term goals, and what (if any) particular sound you're trying to achieve.

eventually, you will buy/use both of these sort of things depending on the circumstance/scenario.
Old 29th January 2013 | Show parent
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which daw do you use?
Ableton
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Ableton
Ableton comes with plenty of good plugins.
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Originally Posted by Nahuel ➑️
if your about mixing get the plugins...but if your about writing music get the samples
+1
Old 29th January 2013
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+1
Cosign...plus with Ableton you have good stock plugs and you can find some really good ones for free or purchase from 3rd parties

Goldbaby has some really cool sounds...
Old 29th January 2013
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if i were you, i would download the goldbaby demo kits and see if you like them. also sounds in HD makes some demo kits, as well as mpc-samples.com, and sonic specialists.

after you listen to a few of these, you can kind of get a feel as to what kind of kits you like and make a decision from there, if you go find all of the free kit demo donwloads, you might not even need to buy a sample pack right away.

as for the mixing part of your comment, alot of these drums are "ready to use" drums which require no layering, but that kind of stuff is still fun to do if you are making a beat. its not as cut and dry as your thinking, music is subjective and sounds are too, just because the goldbaby drums CAN be used without layers or eq, compression, doesnt mean that they HAVE to be every time.
thats part of the fun of it, making your own sounds from all different kits/samples.

as you are mixing with these "ready to use" drums, you might find you need to eq some of the sounds just to get it to sit right with the other frequencies in the mix, while on other songs you might find that you dont have to eq anything because the drum sound just fits well. this really applies to any sounds ever, so just because they are selling you a "ready to use" drum kit, doesnt mean that you will not have to eq and compress to get it to sit right in your mix.

the point im getting at is, sometimes its still fun to to add saturation and effects to these kinds of kits, so just get out there and experiment and see what sounds good.

alot of these websites have pretty big sets of demo kits and i could see you easily getting 500-600 sounds out of it for free if you look hard enough. i think sonic specialists alone will email you 350 free drums if you sign up for their mailing list.
Old 30th January 2013
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I bought both, Tape drum machines are great, and PSP mix pack, this is awesome, what this thing do to your mix is priceless, play with mix saturator on master, and track sounds very good.
Old 30th January 2013
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idk why people like goldbaby so much, i like the sonic specialist stuff
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idk why people like goldbaby so much, i like the sonic specialist stuff
I guess it depends what type of hiphop you are doing.

I have bought the MPC60 1 & 2 a few years ago and for a boombap type sound they are very good + the TR series are excellent for layering purpose
Old 30th January 2013
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I think the Goldbaby kits sound really good which is what inspired me to actually buy some. However, I find they can be very hard to use, in practice, if you they type who likes to layer and eq your drums. They just "take up a lot of room", I can't really describe it but it's hard for me to get my desired results with them. Even though you get a lot of samples, you don't get a lot of "flavors" so the combination of them not being easy to layer and process becomes harder because you will likely end up using one sample for a snare, and if it isn't right, you have to keep browsing through them to get it right.

I am just saying that though I think they sound really good and are good if you just want to pick a sample and be done, they just don't work for me. That isn't a knock on them, for many that would be a positive but I know others have had the same experience as me, especially if you came up on sampling your own drums.
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I think the Goldbaby kits sound really good which is what inspired me to actually buy some. However, I find they can be very hard to use, in practice, if you they type who likes to layer and eq your drums. They just "take up a lot of room", I can't really describe it but it's hard for me to get my desired results with them. Even though you get a lot of samples, you don't get a lot of "flavors" so the combination of them not being easy to layer and process becomes harder because you will likely end up using one sample for a snare, and if it isn't right, you have to keep browsing through them to get it right.

I am just saying that though I think they sound really good and are good if you just want to pick a sample and be done, they just don't work for me. That isn't a knock on them, for many that would be a positive but I know others have had the same experience as me, especially if you came up on sampling your own drums.
I feel ya
they are already saturated and compressed and beefed up not necessarily in YOUR way. So there is not much sonic headroom to rweak and layer. That is why I tend to use some 70s drums and PROCESS them. That is why I say - ROOM ACOUSTICS
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Originally Posted by 3rd Degree ➑️
I think the Goldbaby kits sound really good which is what inspired me to actually buy some. However, I find they can be very hard to use, in practice, if you they type who likes to layer and eq your drums. They just "take up a lot of room", I can't really describe it but it's hard for me to get my desired results with them. Even though you get a lot of samples, you don't get a lot of "flavors" so the combination of them not being easy to layer and process becomes harder because you will likely end up using one sample for a snare, and if it isn't right, you have to keep browsing through them to get it right.

I am just saying that though I think they sound really good and are good if you just want to pick a sample and be done, they just don't work for me. That isn't a knock on them, for many that would be a positive but I know others have had the same experience as me, especially if you came up on sampling your own drums.
Yeah, you can end up layering a lot of that noise and artifact. Saturation is good, but not when your stacking static saturation on top of other static saturation. It gets sloppy and smeary.

I agree with everything you just said. There are times when you know what you want,the samples are ready to go, nothing needs to be on that channel, no processing. Then you can focus on all the other good stuff to fit in between those meaty, crunchy perc hits.

Sometimes having little option for flavor is nice. it keeps it simple, you can focus on arranging a damn good song. If you do have to second guess yourself, replacing a perc sample will not throw your whole drumset off kilter, everything fits right in.
Old 30th January 2013
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I got like 90% of GB stuff and SonicSpecialists fist 3 packs.

I don't really agree with the comments here.

SonicSpecialists are well designed drums with a modern twist, good packs but if you dont use any other sources you end up sounding like Sirocco.

GB stuff is nice cause it's a large collection of classic drum machines which is great precisely for layering. You get the saturated versions as well even thought I barely use the heavily distorted ones, I find the clean and "light tape" versions much more useful.
Old 30th January 2013
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I like all of the libraries mentioned!

Building your own collection is the way to go!
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