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Old 7th December 2012
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🎧 5 years
Samples with Drums

So this may be a dumb question that can easily be answered, but I'm gonna go with the mindset that there are no stupid questions.

So i have been sampling for about a year now, and I am frequently held back by the drums in a sample. I like to use my own drums with a sample, and when my drums are put together with the original drums from a song they obviously do not mesh too well. This mostly occurs when trying to use vocal samples, but I have also ran into this when working with regular instrument samples.

What I am getting at is, what technique do you use when working around (or eliminating) drums from a sample. Do you chop the beat in a way that the drums won't interfere? Or are they any secrets to phase out the drums so that they can be layered properly with my own?

Again, this may be a pointless question and may truly show what a noob I am to production. But it has been on my mind over the past few months, and would really help with my production if I new what techniques all of you guys are using.

Thanks guys
Old 7th December 2012
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🎧 10 years
using a high pass filter will help remove the low end of the kicks.

but the high frequencies of the snares/hats/cymbals are pretty much stuck there.

you could low pass the sample but that would affect the instrumentation you're wanting to sample.
Old 7th December 2012
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If you chopping your samples, then try adjusting the attack of the sample to get rid of the clickyness, and then just layer with your drums. Works like a charm most of the time.
Old 7th December 2012
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Originally Posted by jbird712 ➑️
So this may be a dumb question that can easily be answered, but I'm gonna go with the mindset that there are no stupid questions.

So i have been sampling for about a year now, and I am frequently held back by the drums in a sample. I like to use my own drums with a sample, and when my drums are put together with the original drums from a song they obviously do not mesh too well. This mostly occurs when trying to use vocal samples, but I have also ran into this when working with regular instrument samples.

What I am getting at is, what technique do you use when working around (or eliminating) drums from a sample. Do you chop the beat in a way that the drums won't interfere? Or are they any secrets to phase out the drums so that they can be layered properly with my own?

Again, this may be a pointless question and may truly show what a noob I am to production. But it has been on my mind over the past few months, and would really help with my production if I new what techniques all of you guys are using.

Thanks guys
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Old 7th December 2012
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Just chop your sample everytime there's a kick, snare, hihat or any other percussive element.
Put your own drums on top and play with the samples in the kit untill it sounds right.
Find a way to use it to tiur advantage, norhing wrobg with drums in a sample.
Think of it as a bonus drumloop
Old 7th December 2012
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To recap what's been said and what I would do....compress the sample with a fast attack compressor to take away the punch of the drums. Then eq the perc out a little (probably hpf possibly set around 200-300hz and lpf set around 12k-14k depending on sample of course! Those numbers could be way more extreme)
Old 7th December 2012
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Originally Posted by CharlesEdward ➑️
If you chopping your samples, then try adjusting the attack of the sample to get rid of the clickyness, and then just layer with your drums. Works like a charm most of the time.
This
Similar technique used by Apollo Brown, Kev Brown, Black Milk, Dilla, and Praise.

http://youtu.be/Z3-jFHt8TD4
Kev says a quick blurb at 4:39
Old 7th December 2012
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Use a low pass filter on the sample to really bury the hi-hats and the brightness of snare hits. If you go back and listen to old Tribe albums and then listen to the orig samples, you'll see they really low-passed quite a bit, yet it doesn't sound muddy or muffled. The crisp hi-end of your beat should be coming from your own drums, not your sample.
Old 8th December 2012
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Chopping is an option, more importantly, regardless of what technique you use, it's very important to find drums that match the sample through sample selection, programming (composition/arrangement) and tuning. Don't try and stick the square peg in the circle, not everything goes with everything ya dig?
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Originally Posted by Studio507 ➑️
Don't try and stick the square peg in the circle, not everything goes with everything ya dig?
Says who?

This is music.. if it sounds good it is good.
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Originally Posted by TYPHY ➑️
Says who?

This is music.. if it sounds good it is good.
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