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Old 25th January 2009
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East Bay Vocal Chain?

Just curious What vocal chain would you recommend to get an east bay sound?

Keak Da Sneak
Yukmouth
Shady Nate
J Stalin
Bruce Banna
Pretty Black
Ea-Ski


mic?
compressor?
pre?

i'll take a guess?
api 512c, purple compressor, peluso VTB????
Old 25th January 2009
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most likely a neumann u87 or tlm 103 or to avalon 737
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if anyone really does know or can decipher the music
i would love to know!

these are my absolute favorite styles of rap!
Old 25th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by ChaosCreation ➑️
if anyone really does know or can decipher the music
i would love to know!

these are my absolute favorite styles of rap!

the mic and pre have little to do with the style thats being layed out in the bay.

it's what's being put into that mic and pre that makes it the east bay style.

a good pro mic and pre can be used for east bay or rockabilly just the same.
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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i disagree! there is a certain flavor of set up from east bay.
when i hear peoples older stuff , you can see that its a bit thinner than when they made money and got decent equipment.

(im not saying that plug in X and get that sound)

just wanted to know if anyone new what each uses?
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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so lets say they were using an sm58 and a true P solo, or m audio fast track the sound would be the same????

I think there is a definitive way there set up and stacked as well as what preamps and mics are used.
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Originally Posted by ChaosCreation ➑️
i disagree! there is a certain flavor of set up from east bay.
when i hear peoples older stuff , you can see that its a bit thinner than when they made money and got decent equipment.

(im not saying that plug in X and get that sound)

just wanted to know if anyone new what each uses?

ive worked w/ E40, Yuckmouth (w/ his fine porno girlfriend in studio), Balance, Clyde Carson, Keak but if u know better then.....

this was in real studios. Maybe u listening to older home studio cheap stuff. I wouldnt shoot for that sound. Not ready for primetime in 2009
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Well what set up would you recommend since you worked with some of the best?

would a grace m 101 and at 4047 be enough? with no external compression?

if not

could you tell me what would be a great combo?
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Ive worked and work with a lot of bay area artists such as hoodstarz, clyde carson, san quinn, mistah fab, etc etc

there is no gear that will give you an "east Bay sound" its just the stye of the region man...

ive used various **** from audio technica 4040 's with presonus channel strips,

to u87's with distressors

yeah the gear gives u a certain sound but its all in the artists performance that makes them have that East Bay sound...
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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well i have to say that is the best rap around period!

hats off to you for working up there.
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would u say that an external compressor is neccessary? for rap
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dude, wake up...the style has NOTHING to do with the equipment.
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dude, wake up...the style has NOTHING to do with the equipment.
that's wierd cause i bought a mxl e40 edition mic and as soon as i started talking through it, i started using mad stupid slang.
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that's wierd cause i bought a mxl e40 edition mic and as soon as i started talking through it, i started using mad stupid slang.
When I put on my Jordan shoes, I notice my vertical leap increases with 20 inches and my tongue starts hanging out my mouth.
Old 28th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by ChaosCreation ➑️
well i have to say that is the best rap around period!

hats off to you for working up there.

it was fun for little while... then it just got redundant until i got tired of only workign with certain artists.. deifnitely a good stepping stone.. but now I'm out in LA working with a Legendary producer....

I still work on records for my boy Clyde Carson and a few others. but not as much....

and using a compressor is a must for rap vox for me.....
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When I put on my Jordan shoes, I notice my vertical leap increases with 20 inches and my tongue starts hanging out my mouth.
thats funny when i became an engineer and gave up the dram of being an artist, i suddenly developed high estrogen and a superiority complex , with a knack for knocking others.
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thats funny when i became an engineer and gave up the dram of being an artist, i suddenly developed high estrogen and a superiority complex , with a knack for knocking others.
Excuse me if I failed to grasp your sarcasm, but are you saying I'm 'suffering' from a superiority complex, thus trying to knock you for asking a certain question?
If you really are an engineer, you should have figured out you can't develop a certain STYLE with GEAR. That's all.
Old 29th January 2009 | Show parent
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I have worked with lots of the bigger East Bay and Bay Area artists both in the studio and on my own projects. Are you trying to get the older kind of sound or the more recent stuff? I worked in one of the bigger "rap" studios in Oakland and back in the day we used an AT 4033 and then they got a Rode K2 later on all tracked thru Neve 33114 preamps and usually dbx 160x compressors. One thing to keep in mind is most Bay rappers do at least one double on there vocals if not more plus adlibs. I have songs that I have done with Keak, Fab, The Team (Clyde Carson and Kaz Kyzah), Dem Hoodstarz, Big Rich, Casual, and Turf Talk which we did in my studio if you listen to them and have any questions on vocal chains used I could tell you what was used. Honestly most of these guys are using whatever the studio has that they are recording at unless we are talking about the E-40's and Too Short's etc. Hope this helps
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