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Old 1 week ago
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Healthy stem levels peak / rms

Struggling to find a clear answer on this:

When I make a beat, need to convert midi to wav / stems. I need to leave headroom and so need to ensure my levels are healthy.

Should my levels for the beat be the same as vocal levels?

Vocal levels @ -18 rms and -10 peak
Beat stem levels @ -18 rms and -10 peak

Use my ears, of course. But is this a safe range to aim for?
Old 1 week ago
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Should my levels for the beat be the same as vocal levels?
?
doesn't matter
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Originally Posted by Noobstudioguy ➡️

is this a safe range to aim for?
yes
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just dont clip unless you like the sound of clipping
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doesn't matter

yes
Why doesn't it matter?
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Why doesn't it matter?
because sound should be not mixed relying on peak or RMS level, but based on what the mixer hears
Old 11 hours ago
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Why doesn't it matter?
It doesn't matter because the stems will be mixed and then mastered. The levels are arbitrary at this point. As long as they do not clip and you have them sounding they way you want them to sound, you are good.
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Originally Posted by Noobstudioguy ➡️
Struggling to find a clear answer on this:

When I make a beat, need to convert midi to wav / stems. I need to leave headroom and so need to ensure my levels are healthy.

Should my levels for the beat be the same as vocal levels?

Vocal levels @ -18 rms and -10 peak
Beat stem levels @ -18 rms and -10 peak

Use my ears, of course. But is this a safe range to aim for?
Go with what sounds good. I learned to ignore the levels even into the red unless you are going to have someone master it - in that case you want to leave about 20 % headroom for them to work. I personally push the crap out of the output to get the AD converters working. I push it until I hear distortion. Sometimes if you worry about if you are in the red, you end up exporting too low and take the life out of the track. Use your ears and ignore what you see on the screen.
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