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Steinberg announces UR-RT2 and UR-RT4 interfaces
Old 20th June 2018 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by axemanchris ➡️
If you use Cubase, you can use Direct Monitoring, which is effectively latency-free.

I'm a very happy MR816 user and am interested to see if there is going to be a UR RT8 or something that represents an evolution from MR816 to UR824 to ???

Chris
That contributes nothing for folks that use virtual instruments.

With that being said, when I had the MR816, performance was pretty good.
Old 20th June 2018
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It may not contribute anything to people who just use virtual instruments, but it does contribute directly to those who are concerned about the latency of the unit when recording audio.

That said, when I do use virtual instruments, I can get the latency down to a very usable amount.

Chris
Old 28th July 2018
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Should I risk an Audient id14 over this one? Or better look at Presonus Studio68?
I don’t record guitar or voice... just sample the inputs ( ableton live on Mac )
Old 18th August 2018
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It's basically the same thing as adding Rupert Neve RNDI's to the UR44 correct?
Old 2nd October 2018 | Show parent
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Just curious, anyone care to report on how these sound?
Old 3rd October 2018 | Show parent
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Just curious, anyone care to report on how these sound?
I'm considering adding the 4 ch. as an additional coloration box to my setup for external synths. ATM I connect my synths to SSL's VHD preamps but as I "only" own a stereo pair it would be nice to avoid re-patching every time I switch synth.

I do not plan to use it as an interface so I don't care about RTL performance. But it's nice that you can connect an iPad to it to control the DSP.

Anyway, I've read through some public reviews online:
Reviewed: Steinberg UR-RT4 audio interface
Review: Steinberg UR-RT4 - Mixonline
Steinberg UR-RT2 Review - An Interface packed with Sonic Clout
Old 20th October 2018 | Show parent
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Should I risk an Audient id14 over this one? Or better look at Presonus Studio68?
I don’t record guitar or voice... just sample the inputs ( ableton live on Mac )
Hi
Any opinions on this one? Audient id14 vs RT2?

My signal goes through various pres before reaching the audio interface (tube) so its quite high gain. Which among the above has better conversion and better headroom?

Also does the Neve transformer add guitar/bass specific colours on the sound that might affect other instruments?
Old 21st October 2018
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Ended up with Id14 ...no regret! Mixer app for routing and levels...stable on Mac
Old 16th January 2019
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Recently picked one of these up to try out and it's going back.

I feel like they're taking the piss... What a weird way to use transformers!
Old 7th March 2019 | Show parent
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Its always better to have more headroom than a device that's limiting it. As I said before, I notice a significant differences between the Scarlett vs the Forte that are both USB interfaces made by the same manufacture. The Forte competes directly with the Apogee Duet 2 as its no comparison to the Scarlett range which is leaps head in conversion and mic pre performance. The Edirol UA-25EX that I had years ago, easily clips even with the gain turned half way or noisy if the signal going into it was low when I crank it. The Scarlett that replaced it was much better. Now, the Clarett 8 Pre is replacing my old Scarlett 18i20 which is also leaps ahead of it that's on the same level as my Forte with the exception being a Thunderbolt interface. The Scarlett and the UA-25EX are more on the low end budget side that you can still make decent recordings with. Rupert Neve's collaborations has generally been high end equipment, the specs are quite low for an interface by today's standards with the rest of the competition to add transformers to it. It would make better sense if those transformers were in the RME Babyface Pro, the Clarett or Apogee Duet 2. To me, it just doesn't fit right for the interface that was chosen to implement the design. Even the new AVB Motu interfaces are leaps ahead of the competition using the ESS Sabre 32bit DAC chip esp the new UltraLite-Mk4 thats about $595.
IMO,high end audio interfaces like RME,UAD,etc. don't implement "colourful" transformers,like Neve Designs,cause the people ,who use such interfaces,most probably have external mic pres,which they connect direct into the line ins.In my case I have the RME Babyface Pro along with Rupert Neve Designs RNDI-S,which is, placed,before the BFP's pre amps.The good thing with a separate DI box like the RNDI/S,is that I can use the Neve transformers with any mic pre ,after it(and I have a bunch of them),while with the UR RT series,one is stuck only with the D Pre's(which are super nice IMO and I have them too).
Old 14th March 2019 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Savana Violenta ➡️
IMO,high end audio interfaces like RME,UAD,etc. don't implement "colourful" transformers,like Neve Designs,cause the people ,who use such interfaces,most probably have external mic pres,which they connect direct into the line ins.In my case I have the RME Babyface Pro along with Rupert Neve Designs RNDI-S,which is, placed,before the BFP's pre amps.The good thing with a separate DI box like the RNDI/S,is that I can use the Neve transformers with any mic pre ,after it(and I have a bunch of them),while with the UR RT series,one is stuck only with the D Pre's(which are super nice IMO and I have them too).
Yes and no. I actually use both. I have a selection of high end pre's and also use the the mic pre's (Unison tech built into the UAD Apollo interfaces - Neve, API, UA etc). They are not 100% emu's but they are certainly very very close. Recently upgraded the Apollo's for the new X8's. Great bang for buck IMO.
Old 20th March 2019 | Show parent
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I wonder if anyone with a UR-RT4 tried to print their ITB mix through the Transformers?

Going out with 1-2 or 3-4, then patching those pairs to a pair of Transformer line inputs on your mixbus. You could have that set up easily in ProTools as a Hardware Insert.

To be honest, that is the most intriguing feature. I normally produce and record elsewhere but in my home studio mix (mostly ITB with a few hardware effects that might be used). Maybe replacing VCC or NLS with a hardware patch would be intriguing.

Love to hear anyone's experience with that.
Old 7th April 2019 | Show parent
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In my case I have the RME Babyface Pro along with Rupert Neve Designs RNDI-S,which is, placed,before the BFP's pre amps.

The good thing with a separate DI box like the RNDI/S,is that I can use the Neve transformers with any mic pre ,.

What's the function of running a DI box into the RME Babyface?
Old 9th April 2019 | Show parent
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I wonder if anyone with a UR-RT4 tried to print their ITB mix through the Transformers?

Going out with 1-2 or 3-4, then patching those pairs to a pair of Transformer line inputs on your mixbus. You could have that set up easily in ProTools as a Hardware Insert.

To be honest, that is the most intriguing feature. I normally produce and record elsewhere but in my home studio mix (mostly ITB with a few hardware effects that might be used). Maybe replacing VCC or NLS with a hardware patch would be intriguing.

Love to hear anyone's experience with that.
Forget about the transformers doing anything useful. They really are a total gimmick.

These interfaces are literally crippled versions of the old UR series with vents & lights. Xformer is placed between pre and converter and offers none of the benefits that an xformer can provide.

Buy a pair of Radial JDI if you want xformers that are actually useful.
Old 9th April 2019 | Show parent
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Forget about the transformers doing anything useful. They really are a total gimmick.

These interfaces are literally crippled versions of the old UR series with vents & lights. Xformer is placed between pre and converter and offers none of the benefits that an xformer can provide.

Buy a pair of Radial JDI if you want xformers that are actually useful.
I have both the UR RT and JDI's and what you write is not my experience.

First of all, the RT's are no "crippled down" versions of UR. They're true to each other as much as they can be. Meaning same ADDA, same clock, but the RT actually has a theoretical advantage to the regular UR, and that is the beefed up PSU needed.
The regular UR22 works on "dirty" USB-power, while the RT2 needs the external cleaner PSU.

And how do you come to the conclusion that JDI's "are actually useful" when you begin your post with "Forget about the transformers doing anything useful. They really are a total gimmick"
Old 10th April 2019 | Show parent
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I have both the UR RT and JDI's and what you write is not my experience.

First of all, the RT's are no "crippled down" versions of UR. They're true to each other as much as they can be. Meaning same ADDA, same clock, but the RT actually has a theoretical advantage to the regular UR, and that is the beefed up PSU needed.
The regular UR22 works on "dirty" USB-power, while the RT2 needs the external cleaner PSU.

And how do you come to the conclusion that JDI's "are actually useful" when you begin your post with "Forget about the transformers doing anything useful. They really are a total gimmick"
Look at my post above where I wrote that I had the RT4 and sent it back.

Now I'm glad you enjoy it but that was not my experience. I've still got a UR22 mk2 by the way.

JDI's are actually useful because they provide galvanic isolation. The transformers in the RT interfaces do not.

"crippled down" because they now are more reliant on control software with regards to monitoring choices. No bueno for me.

Now if you enjoy what the transformers do and you're ok with paying a premium for them I am really happy for you. I bought mine as an "upgrade" to the UR22 to use with iOS devices, it was more of a downgrade in my use case.
Old 2nd August 2019 | Show parent
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What's the function of running a DI box into the RME Babyface?
RNDI/S gives unparalleled depth and sonic colour to an already great pre's and just make the sound big, bold and sweet for a lack of a better word.
Old 28th August 2019 | Show parent
  #108
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I have the RT4. Picked it up for mobile podcast recording. I really wish there was a rack mount kit for this. My biggest complaint is that the peak indicators are useless. I would have rather had a full rack with unit with some decent level indicators. Sound-wise I have no complaints but I always use this unit with the transformers out of the circuit path.
Old 28th August 2019 | Show parent
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It's basically the same thing as adding Rupert Neve RNDI's to the UR44 correct?
Not exactly cause Ur rt 2 costs as much as one channel RNDI and UR RT4 costs as much as two channels RNDI S. So how come four RN transformers with D pre's and converters aka audio interface will be the same price as dual channel RNDI?The RNDI must be a better product when it comes to RN sound. And it is.
Old 22nd March 2020 | Show parent
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Recently picked one of these up to try out and it's going back.

I feel like they're taking the piss... What a weird way to use transformers!
You are the only person I've ever heard of actually using one of these.

That good huh?
Old 3 weeks ago
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ur rt2 rocks balls. no latency whatsoever. and the extra umph of neve rocks. but the most outstanding thing is the headphone amp is built in to deliver enough power for my deaf ears.

latency has a lot to do with your ctappy computer. those of us with current setups that rock.. dont have latency. fyi. I NEVER adjust my steinberg Yamaha asio to get less latency. but my computer is current. using USB 2 here cuz it seems they tossed the ur rt series. this is about making money. those transformers and extra awesome headphone amplifier and great stealth usb2 drivers apparentely don't cover 2021. but the performance is beyond whats out there for 350$ . my sound is pristine and latent free for pennies.

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