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nativeaudio 4th January 2014 02:33 AM

The Ultimate DAW Poll 2014/2015
 
We have another thread with an almost similar thread title, but that was a 2012/2013 poll.

So here's a new one.

Which of these OSX/Windows DAWs is your favourite?

You may select only one.

*Make sure you select the correct version* (Mac/PC), if both options are available.


If you wonder why you can select only one DAW, please have a look at the previous poll: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...12-2013-a.html

the C.L.A. 4th January 2014 02:44 PM

Of the DAWs listed Ardour, Mixbus, Tracktion and Bitwig are (or will be) available for Linux as well. It would be nice to add those options, too, or skip the distinction between OSs completely.

Boberg 4th January 2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the C.L.A. (Post 9726826)
Of the DAWs listed Ardour, Mixbus, Tracktion and Bitwig are (or will be) available for Linux as well. It would be nice to add those options, too, or skip the distinction between OSs completely.

I agree. Rather just have the DAWs without any OS information listed.

Anyhow, Cubase Windows it is for me right now! :)

dented42ford 4th January 2014 09:41 PM

I answered "Ableton Live OSX", as that is the one I find myself using the most often...

That being said, how about a "Multi-DAW" option for those of us who are complete DAW *****s? I mean, I regularly use 5 DAWs (Live, Logic, Cubase, PT, Reason) and 2 Single-Track Editors (Audition, WaveLab). I only selected "Live OSX" because that is the one I use to produce my own music. When working with others, it all depends, and when doing audio-for-video, same deal - usually Cubase/Logic for the former and PT for the latter, but not by any means always...

Plus, what exactly separates a highly-featured sequencer from a DAW these days? I mean, is ReNoise a DAW? Is Maschine? Is Audition? Is AudioMulch? All four are capable of being a "DAW", but in a more limited capacity - yet, so is Reason, and it is on your list. So, what is the definition we are working from here?

G-Sun 4th January 2014 09:49 PM

Nice. This is maybe the only way to get clue about DAW use-shares.

loopy 4th January 2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Sun (Post 9727817)
Nice. This is maybe the only way to get clue about DAW use-shares.

Agreed.

At a minimum a person needs to be a registered GS user in order to vote so that will cut down on the fan boy factor.

I laugh when I see these polls on the various magazine or music websites because it seems like some way out there DAW software usually comes out on top. This leads me to believe the sites are being shilled by the various fanboys of whatever DAW software because usually no registration is required.

Frodebro 5th January 2014 02:41 AM

I only voted because I'm curious to see the poll results. :)

Long-time Logic user, so that's the box I checked.

billcarroll 5th January 2014 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Boberg (Post 9727001)
I agree. Rather just have the DAWs without any OS information listed.

Anyhow, Cubase Windows it is for me right now! :)

Agreed. If this is a DAW poll then OS shouldn't be a part of it.

Cubase 7.5 kfhkh

Bullseye 5th January 2014 02:58 AM

What is the criteria for "Ultimate" and who, do tell, has used all of these enough to make such a call. Silly…..

loopy 5th January 2014 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullseye (Post 9728519)
What is the criteria for "Ultimate" and who, do tell, has used all of these enough to make such a call. Silly…..

Ultimate is subjective. If a given DAW does what you need then for *you* by definition it's ultimate.

Also the OP could also mean the ultimate DAW poll as in the poll to end all polls not necessarily the best DAW..

Doesn't really matter though because most people are going to vote for their favorite DAW so it becomes a which DAW is most popular poll.

Frodebro 5th January 2014 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loopy (Post 9728636)
Doesn't really matter though because most people are going to vote for their favorite DAW so it becomes a which DAW is most popular poll.

That's really all it is, but it's still interesting to see what everybody is using.

JimYoung 5th January 2014 07:06 AM

I'm surprised by the low percentage of Sonar users.

Cubase on Windows is my DAW software.

apartment dog 5th January 2014 09:43 AM

I voted the DAW, didn't see I voted for the wrong OS.

So there's 1 Reaper vote that needs to go to windows.

adhinata 5th January 2014 10:29 AM

okay.. i vote reaper for windows

B-San 5th January 2014 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimYoung (Post 9728967)
I'm surprised by the low percentage of Sonar users.

It might have been a different result a few years ago, but thanks to X1 a lot of us long-time users have jumped ship...

Studio One has been my new home for the last couple of years..

I love the fact that it's cross platform as well... but for now Windows wins out, since I'm still waiting on a few plugins to migrate their Mac VST versions over to 64bit land...

nativeaudio 5th January 2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boberg (Post 9727001)
I agree. Rather just have the DAWs without any OS information listed.

Why? The only difference is that when adding info about the OS, more information is added for those who are interested in eg. seeing how popular a given DAW is on other if the two platforms (popular among the votes on this forum, that is). As far as I can tell, we don't losing any thing by having separate votes for Windows and Mac DAWs?

billcarroll 7th January 2014 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nativeaudio (Post 9730405)
Why? The only difference is that when adding info about the OS, more information is added for those who are interested in eg. seeing how popular a given DAW is on other if the two platforms (popular among the votes on this forum, that is). As far as I can tell, we don't losing any thing by having separate votes for Windows and Mac DAWs?

It's confusing to vote, and confusing to read. Consolidate for clarity. It's a DAW poll after all, not an OS poll.

nativeaudio 7th January 2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by billcarroll (Post 9733871)
It's confusing to vote, and confusing to read. Consolidate for clarity. It's a DAW poll after all, not an OS poll.

Fair enough, and sorry for the confusion. Personally I see it as an OS/DAW poll ;-) ...since the end result will provide more info than a DAW poll, eg. how many of the voting DAW users on this forum who are using OS X/Windows.


PS - there are other DAW polls on this site for those want a plain DAW poll.

The Byre 7th January 2014 11:02 AM

Please leave the poll the way it is - this is BTW pretty much what I expected and ties in perfectly with the number of downloads and OTC sales and is therefore a very realistic reflection of the use of DAWs at the moment.

nativeaudio 8th January 2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Byre (Post 9734935)
Please leave the poll the way it is

I can't edit the poll itself now anyway, don't worry. :-)

Quote:

this is BTW pretty much what I expected and ties in perfectly with the number of downloads and OTC sales and is therefore a very realistic reflection of the use of DAWs at the moment.
And when we reach, say, 500 votes, the likelihood that this poll will match real life distribution of DAW users will increase. Consider this a bump. :-]

fugs 8th January 2014 05:58 AM

It's been a while since I looked into other DAW's, but I'm considering a change. Curious, do any of these (Windows OS) support both 32/64bit VST's without using Jbridge or whatever?

chicitybeats 8th January 2014 07:34 AM

I picked studio one but I use it on macs and pcs so I just voted for the first one I saw, interesting to see where pt is sitting

HamHat 8th January 2014 07:59 AM

I can't vote as there is no "ultimate DAW". I have a love/hate relationship with all DAWs...

nativeaudio 8th January 2014 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamHat (Post 9737793)
I can't vote as there is no "ultimate DAW".

Agree, but this is the ultimate poll. :-)

EvilDragon 8th January 2014 10:21 AM

Reaper, Windows. Easy choice. :)

RogerH 9th January 2014 05:57 AM

Sonar X3 here.

BigTee 9th January 2014 06:10 AM

I own Sonar x 2, Ableton 8, Cubase 7 and Mixbus 2 but I have to give it to Reaper. It might be the last DAW I buy. I just can't say enough nice things about it
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DAW PLUS 9th January 2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nativeaudio (Post 9737960)
Agree, but this is the ultimate poll. :-)

It may be ultimate one day if over 50% of GS members would join the poll. PT OSX for example is leaping much behind my expectations, even early after the poll started.

muziksculp 9th January 2014 09:22 AM

Cubase 7.5 kfhkh (Windows)

Looking forward to add Bitwig Studio when it finally materializes ;)

nativeaudio 9th January 2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAW PLUS (Post 9740758)
It may be ultimate one day if over 50% of GS members would join the poll.

That was my thoughts about such polls at first as well. But I'm not so sure that getting eg 5000 votes will make such a big difference compared with eg having 1000 votes. But multiple choice polls often end up with people voting for all the DAWs they own/ use, and don't say much about what their favourite is (if they had to choose one), so if you (after a few hundred more votes) compare this poll with other polls, you may see some relatively big differences.

Btw, here are some other DAW polls from this forum:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...12-2013-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...urite-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...orite-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-king-daw.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-daw-poll.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...o-you-use.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...rch-paper.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...tools-8-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...at-2010-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...u-use-own.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...orite-daw.html

Even if each of these polls have relatively few votes, they still say something about DAW popularity over the last few years.


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PT OSX for example is leaping much behind my expectations, even early after the poll started.
Let's see after a few hundred more votes. Many former DSP based Pro Tools owners (like myself) have moved over to working natively and therefore don't necessarily need Pro Tools anymore. As this and the previous "ultimate" poll may show: the number of users who own DSP based Pro Tools systems represent a very low percentage of the DAW market (3-4% right now), and while PT still may serve as some kind of industry standard, it only serves as an industry standard within a very small segment of the DAW market.

I think the 'ultimate' DAW will be the DAW that is most stable, has the best performance and implements both the features users know they need and ask for and features they really like as soon as they get them.

But there are two other, really important factors: A good DAW needs to work well within the education market (read: easy to use and have good scoring capabilities) and it also needs to cater for professionals' needs even if most of it's user usually won't need all these features. I think this is important for a number of reasons, eg. because many hobbyists want to use what the pros use, and because the wannebe market is gigantic compared with the pro market - and because wannabes still want a great professional feature set.

In addition, I think any DAW which doesn't prioritise song writing features will lose terrain. There are thousands of songs/compositions written for every song that get any airplay. A DAW which doesn't somehow work work as a musical instrument and doesn't help it's users in the process of writing good songs simply wont have the same appeal as a more sound engineer oriented DAW.

But we'll probably see both Steinberg and Avid coming up with better solutions for composers and songwriters within not too long, because they have been focusing on such features for a long time. Steinberg has taken over most of the Sibelius team, and according to Avid, the process of using their new score outsourced score coders is mainly going well. I'm sure Apple will do something a well, I'm just worried about how long it will take.

So if my thoughts about this are somehow in touch with reality, Pro Tools could end up winning more customers again, eg. if they make a consolidated program a la Logic with an integrated composing/score area which isn't just a very downscaled version of Sibelius.

And of course: In terms of being the 'ultimate' DAW, polls can and do lie – because everybody can vote, including people who only have used their fav. DAW a handful of times or have never compared their DAW properly with what other DAWs offer. But as mentioned, this poll isn't about "the ultimate DAW"; it's meant as the ultimate poll about the voters' personal favourite DAW. :-)

One more thing about the success-ratio of each of these DAWs: The manufacturers, of course need to listen to their customers, but the worst thing which could happen for the development of any of these DAWs would be if the companies would post questionnaires to their users and ask questions like "Do you use the score editor?", "How often do you use **** for live use?" etc –*if the answers would fool them to assume that they eg. don't need to keep developing this or that feature just because not so many users use it, ignoring the fact that most people who eg. need a program which is great for live use – or one that has a great score editor –*already are using other DAWs, and therefore won't respond to such questions.

OTOH, I'm sure that all these companies are aware of that people who learn a DAW/score app when studying are more likely to use the same program when they buy their own software. So there could still be a certain chance that my personal favourite DAW up to now will pick up the development of score and composing features again. ;-)