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Old 14th September 2012
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House-Music with Diva Bass!

Heres a Track i "finished" today. I switched back from ableton to Logic and my workflow is faster, did this mainly today. what do you think? I think the arrangment is ok, but a bit like "one piece and then the next peace..."...are there to less elements? hows the mix? (i dont have monitors so i mix with senheisser hd-25 :( )

I really appreciate critic. I cant do anything with "yeah, nice dude". Then better "sucks dude, because of....".

Thank you

Jonas

(it kicks in at 1 min, so dont stop before )
Old 19th September 2012
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is it so bad? :( well even if it is, can you guys give me hints on what i need work?
Old 19th September 2012
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Ok, I'll bite.

Rather like the dirty minimal approach! Some thoughts I would try:

- Kick and bass are too fat and unruly, try muting the bass and pull something like around 250Hz out of the kick the make it a bit less lumpy. Then try around with a narrowish boost where the kick's punch is. Likely in the hundreds. Then pull some notch out of the bass at that spot.

- The closed hihat on the left has buckets of mid left in it. Could do with loosing a little, but not too much. I'd try and shave up from the bottom with a 12db hipass until it doesn't quite jump out too much. But don't overdo that one, as the way it DOES jump out is important for the energy of the groove.

- I would put all the drums in a compression group and make them bounce together with open attack and short release at ratio 4 or so. And then send a little (!) bit of the bass into that group per aux send as well, as to make the bass line trigger the drum group comp a little so there is interaction, but the main of the bass sound stays out on its own (otherwise the drum group would totally 'drown' in bass).

- I don't much like the clap rolls. Too much. I would diet that down a bit, and also quantize them differently as they stop the groove in the wrong way.

- As variation help in something minimal like this, try some 3/16 or other delay feeding of various things and dub it up a little bit, as to create some glue and smear without having to alter patterns to make things last with less 'trying' part changes.

- The whole thing feels very dry/untreated. But once the bass and punch is under control I suspect in a club I would rather love that. Could do with a teeny weeny wetting up here and there though, like tastefully on the clap. The chords in the middle feel a little wrong, spatially and fx wise. Maybe try less (or no) verb and put 3/16 delay instead and then verb hanging off that. In fact, definitely set up a 3/16 delay, eq the return so it has no bottom or top and boost a peak into it somewhere in the middle that goes with the notes of the music and then send a big reverb off that and also feed the delay back on itself. I little bit of that here and there will give the mix a backdrop. Eq the reverb with similar tactics as the delay, but obviously not the same.

Rant over......
Old 19th September 2012
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what he said!

Generally I like it though, like the house organ vibes. And the beats are nicely programmed, some very nice little hooks in there, but those rolling claps do get annoying after a while.



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Old 29th September 2012
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Wow. Now that was really really helpfull. Thank you guys, gonna def. work out your tips. Gearslutz at its best
Old 29th September 2012
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btw nice oldschool flavoured deep house tune
Old 29th September 2012
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That little break at 2:18 is real nice, actually the whole song sounds fairly good except for the already mentioned bass and kick.

In all i liked it a lot!
Old 1st October 2012
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better than 90% of the crap out there! well done. when taking peoples advice make sure you don't end up over producing it. you want to keep the rawness!
Old 1st October 2012
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if you want to keep it oldskool dont pull up the cutoff of the bass. sounds plastic / softsynth to me. also the bassdrum is too minimal / techhouse for that kind of track and like karloff said too loud and needs some eq. i would rather exchange it.
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