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Old 14th March 2014
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need help with understanding mixing

Hey guys!

Have been reading a few guides on mixing lately. Most guides i´ve been reading covers eq, compression, panning and reverb. But effects such as distortion, saturation etc are not mentioned too often. My problem is that I dont understand the order Im supposed to do things in. Am I supposed to put on effects while writing the song ( as a part of the sounddesign/making the sound more interesting), and while im doing a mixdown I should focus on eq, comp, reverb and panning? Hope you guys understand what I mean :-)
Old 14th March 2014
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I know people will get mad at me for saying this but—

Just start doing it and experiment.
See what works for you.
Learning to mix takes LOTS of practice, so you might as well start. And then you will pick up things along the way.
Be prepared to re-do things a lot, and make mistakes, and not sound good. But just keep at it.
Old 14th March 2014
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Listen to what you like, then go for that!
Is it distorted/saturated vocals? Well distort/saturate the vocal till it sounds good...
Use a mix as reference, try to make your mix sound as close to the ref as you can both sound as dynamic etc.
Practice x1000000 times... As MusicJesus said
Old 15th March 2014 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dive ➡️
Listen to what you like, then go for that!
Is it distorted/saturated vocals? Well distort/saturate the vocal till it sounds good...
Use a mix as reference, try to make your mix sound as close to the ref as you can both sound as dynamic etc.
Practice x1000000 times... As MusicJesus said
Thanks for the tip :-) But maybe you could share the order you do things in? Just to have something to start with :-)
Old 15th March 2014
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There are almost as many ways of mixing as there are mixers... And on the topic of order, you'll soon realize that while it is good to work in a structured way, you will invariably have to go back and adjust things - every new element that you introduce in the mix will affect everything else (e.g. the eq setting that made the vocal track sound sooo good in solo might not work when played together with one or more instruments, etc.).

Also, you might want to post questions like these in the Newbie audio engineering & production question zone subforum. The Post Production forum is for discussions pertaining to Television, Film, Video and Radio.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by inf0l ➡️
There are almost as many ways of mixing as there are mixers... And on the topic of order, you'll soon realize that while it is good to work in a structured way, you will invariably have to go back and adjust things - every new element that you introduce in the mix will affect everything else (e.g. the eq setting that made the vocal track sound sooo good in solo might not work when played together with one or more instruments, etc.).

Also, you might want to post questions like these in the Newbie audio engineering & production question zone subforum. The Post Production forum is for discussions pertaining to Television, Film, Video and Radio.

Good luck!
+1 for this.

For music, you could do worse than read 'The Mix Engineers Handbook' - it's got a lot of great advice.

I mix music like I mix my shows, the voice/dialogue is king or queen. Those need to shine above everything else supporting it.
Old 17th March 2014
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Experimentation is key.

Take a piece of music (or whatever) and insert first a compressor, and then an EQ. Duplicate the track and reverse the order of the plug-ins; EQ, then compression. Pay attention to the differences. Do this with individual sounds. Do this with sub-mixes. Do EQ-Compressor-EQ-Compressor, do Compressor-EQ-Compressor-EQ. Try all kinds of weird and crazy things. Play with automation. Spends hours, days, weeks and months doing this when you're not working.

When it comes to music I like to EQ and then compress the kick drum for Rap/Hip-Hop, but compress and then EQ when doing real kick drums. But that's just me. Your style will evolve with experience.
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