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Old 8th July 2020
  #1
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🎧 5 years
Lightbulb Shivaudyo: New studio monitors company

Hello guys,

I'm Alex from Shivaudyo, a newer company that produces high end studio monitors.

In the last two years we have produced studio monitors for several studios, and now we want to launch a model on the market.

We have been researching and developing Speakers for many years, as a result we can produce almost any type of design.

I'm posting here because I want to see what you think.

How do you want to be a new pair of studio monitors?

Do you prefer monitors with control directivity (cardioids)?

Or Monitors with very big SPL ?

Or monitors that accurately reproduce transients?

Please tell me what features you want the studio monitors to have.

We will analyze what you want and will probably be found in the next studio monitors that will appear on the market.

If you have any questions, I am at your disposal.

Thanks,

Alex

https://www.facebook.com/Shivaudyo-101269967922832/
Old 8th July 2020
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Hi Alex,

So what makes your designs stand out and being unique besides SB Acoustic drivers (which are very good drivers btw

There is a big market in speakers.
So what's your vision?
For example, are you focusing on active speakers or passive, entry market, mid or exclusive etc.
For mixing purpose, mastering or maybe even hifi listening?

Going for speakers as it is, design speakers, speakers with correction software or correction switches?
Or even better in my opinion, designing speakers for matching the room? (besides acoustic treatment) which will make every product unique, but will also bring up the price tag if you're looking to the business model.

Looking forward to your reply

Ps. Have you tried the ADC alloy dome? Really really good off axis response excellent detail and can be crossed pretty low.
Old 8th July 2020
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🎧 5 years
Hello,
We have made studio monitors in almost all types of designs for specific orders.
We have practical experience with almost all types of speakers.
This post refers to studio monitors at the highest level of sound quality.
Passive design comes out of the calculation, the monitors will be active, amplified + DSP if necessary.

In this case we are talking about studio monitors, not Hi-Fi speakers.

These monitors will go below 30 Hz (-3dB)

If we choose to use the DSP, then the speakers will also have the option of room calibration.

So far we have tested almost all models of drivers on the market in order to select the most performing, or the most suitable for a particular design.

We also tested "ADC alloy dome", we don't use it, there are other more efficient ones ...

For us, the level of detail that it can reproduce also matters a lot.

The transients must be reproduced accurately, and the coloring must be as small as possible.

Some of the speakers we work with are modified, are not the models at the store.
Old 8th July 2020
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🎧 5 years
We know that there are many expensive studio monitors on the market, but from our experience I can say that some of them are poor in quality, even if they are sold at a high price.

We want our monitors to be extremely performant, but to be sold at a relatively low price. That's why I think we will sell them directly, without local distributors and other intermediaries.
Old 8th July 2020
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scam?
Old 8th July 2020
  #6
Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
What scam ''AlogicUser''?
The truth is that it is very difficult to choose a speaker design.
Each design has advantages, but also disadvantages.
Some monitors are created to integrate as well as possible in the room, others to reproduce the sound as accurately as possible.
We use the most advanced technology in the field, but we cannot have all the advantages in one speaker.
We try to see what you want the most.
Old 9th July 2020
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Hi Alex,

But what makes your product unique?
If you look to Amphion, Genelec, Krk, Adam, ATC etc. they all have a signature, a selling point.
The points you listed, described that your company is capable of implementing the needs for a good speaker design...
But i can only find a facebook page and a not working website. That's one of the first things to start working on in my opinion.

Where can we find reports, measurements etc.. What about projects information about the designs, "happy customers"
What where the pros and cons which lead to adjustments during the process and so on. Why should we pick your product instead of the ones mentioned above?

I think you need to focus (a lot) more on marketing, otherwise it would/could be very hard to sell the product.. just a tip
Old 9th July 2020
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🎧 5 years
Thanks for your opinion 'splitpen'.
I'm not here to promote a product, because it doesn't exist yet.
The website and advertising will appear as soon as our product is ready.
We want to launch the product in this fall.
Old 11th July 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Music ➑️
Hello guys,
How do you want to be a new pair of studio monitors?
I myself am like of objectively good monitors like the Genelec or the Neumanns, with a measurably flat frequency response which can also be reproduced at home, Klippel, outside on a high stand or of course by other professionals.

After that, my checklist would be:
- Size, up and around 300x180x200mm would be ideal
- Closed over ported, and if ported on the front
- Deep waveguide to control directivity
- Good materials
- Value for money

Quote:
Do you prefer monitors with control directivity (cardioids)?
So, yes.
Quote:
Or Monitors with very big SPL?
Not really relevant for me, because of my small room.
Quote:
Or monitors that accurately reproduce transients?
A very big yes.
Quote:
Please tell me what features you want the studio monitors to have.
Function over form, while remaining compact. A good example for me is the Neumann KH 310. Which I find to be a near perfect monitor (out of my price range & too big for my room). As for DSP, I really like the implementation of the iLoud MTM, but the microphone should be an extra, I wouldn't want to pay for 2 microphones when I would only use 1 anyway.

Good materials and value for money are both similar and different for me. I'm going to deviate to hi-fi a bit but, the Buchardt A500 sounds good but uses the SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 and two SB Acoustics SB17NRX2C35. Using EU retail prices for the driver units, this means that they have a profit margin of 92% (I know, research, amplifier and whatnot) but the APS Coax has a profit margin of 75% and the Abacus Cortex 6 of 72%, while the SWSpeakers SWΓ–X goes as low as 58%. A rough estimate of the Neumann KH 120 & Genelec 8030 would put them in the 80-85% range (their drivers are based on the Peerless HDS). Please understand, I'm not trying to force you to undervalue your monitors, but I just wanted to share my opinion/findings.

I'm in the process of buying new monitors right now, and I tend to invest a bit too much of my time and my interest goes out to the:
Neumann KH120A
Genelec 8030C
Abacus Cortex 6

Of which the last one has no measurements available, but the rest of my boxes are ticked so I'm trying to audition them at home.
Old 13th September 2020
  #10
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🎧 5 years
Hello guys,
I apologize for the absence, but I've been very busy lately.
I worked hard on the development of new studio monitors.
We have a prototype that we tested intensively and we are very satisfied with the result.
It drops below 30Hz in the anechoic chamber and below 20Hz in a normal chamber.
It is cardioid over 140Hz. (passive cardioid)
It has a very good integration in the rooms compared to the classic monitors.
Uses 2 subwoofers of 10 '' each monitor, configured to cancel the vibration of the box.
Use 2 X 6.5 '' Mid-Woofers with aluminum membrane and a tweeter also with aluminum membrane.
All speakers were selected after testing multiple models.

The sound is extremely natural and detailed.

I'll be back with details.

Alexander.
Old 13th September 2020
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Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
I posted some pictures here:
https://www.facebook.com/Shivaudyo-101269967922832
Old 13th September 2020
  #12
Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
Point Zero - the first measurements

https://www.facebook.com/Shivaudyo-101269967922832
Old 15th September 2020
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Looks nice, woofer and tweeter looks familiar, nice to see the newcomers are using quality parts!
Old 28th September 2020
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Looks promising Alexander, nice!
Old 28th September 2020
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🎧 15 years
Looks very cool whats your price bracket?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Music ➑️
Point Zero - the first measurements

https://www.facebook.com/Shivaudyo-101269967922832


What smoothing is that?
Old 28th September 2020
  #17
Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
Hello guys,

The price for this model I would like to be around 6000 Euro + transport.
But I'm thinking of modifying them to be a little cheaper. I want to make them with 8 '' subwoofers instead of 10 ''
With 8 '' subwoofers it would cost about 4500 Euro + transport.

At the moment, this type of monitor costs at least double.

I'm working on improving, I'll put the tweeter in the waveguide to control the dispersion better.

What do you think about the models, as you would like, with an 8 '' or 10 '' subwoofer?

Both models will go down to 30Hz in the anechoic chamber and approximately 20Hz in a normal chamber, if it allows.
Old 20th November 2020
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🎧 5 years
Back with news.

After many tests and experiments, we finally have a prototype.

We have done auditions compared to the most expensive studio monitors on the market and we are very satisfied with the results.

Spectrum: 30Hz - 25KHz (+/-1dB)
Cardioid: 100Hz - 20KHz
Very good transients
Very low distortion
Without coloration

I'll be back soon with measurements that confirm what I've said.

2 X 8,5'' Subwoofers with very big excursion (vibration cancelling)
6,5'' Mid-Woofer in open box
Tweeter in 6,5'' waveguide

Photos: https://www.facebook.com/Shivaudyo-1...dmin_todo_tour

Alexander.
Old 20th November 2020
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I'm not a pro, but I think both models have market, especially at that price if they deliver.
Where are the crossovers set?
Old 20th November 2020 | Show parent
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For this model with 8,5'' Subs, crossovers are at 120Hz / 1,3KHz.
Old 20th November 2020
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I'm looking to try out some 3-ways next year and whilst these are a very different design I'm interested to hear how these will compare to the Hedd Type 20 mk2, Eve EC3070 and Neumann KH310's.
Old 20th November 2020 | Show parent
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I don't think you chose the right competitors.
The monitors we designed compete with Kii Three, D&D 8c, Geithein ...
But Shivaudyo will be cheaper.
Old 20th November 2020
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This looks very promising! I'm constantly looking for my perfect monitors :D Currently it's ACT SCM25A but who knows for how long
Old 21st November 2020 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Music ➑️
I don't think you chose the right competitors.
The monitors we designed compete with Kii Three, D&D 8c, Geithein ...
But Shivaudyo will be cheaper.
Wow that sounds very impressive!
Old 22nd November 2020
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Will this have room correction?
Old 22nd November 2020 | Show parent
  #26
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🎧 5 years
Yes, the software also contains an eq that can be used for room calibration.
These monitors are designed to be used in difficult rooms or at home.
Old 22nd November 2020
  #27
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I have my eyes set on JBL 708p but this 8'5 model price point is attractive for the features & Quality.

Euro to cad is gonna hurt lol.

Before i even think about these, you are shipping to north America correct? What will the warranty be like & customer service?
Old 22nd November 2020
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Any chance to get a demo pair in Poland?
Old 22nd November 2020 | Show parent
  #29
Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
We are currently working on a way to sell.
The easiest way is to give them to current distributors to get to known stores.
The problem is that the price would go up a lot.

That's why we want to try to sell them ourselves.

In Europe it will not be a problem, we can send with the possibility of return in 30 days.

In several local studios they are already used.

We are looking for a way to pack as safely as possible.

The amplifiers we use are Hypex NCore, with their software, but modified.

We are working on the website, you will find all the details there.

We will keep you updated with the evolution of the project.

Alexander.
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