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Old 8th March 2014
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so, who STILL refuses to put their DAW on the net?

I guess it still bothers me a bit, but do people even get viruses anymore?

I use nothing but free antivir and havent had a virus in 4 years (knock on wood) and that was the ONLY, in the last 10 years....i really only go to about 10 different sites that i consistently spend time on.

I dont even HEAR of people getting viruses anymore. at least not critical.

I have sooooooo many less headaches when i simply use one/single computer.

How do you guys feel? whats the risk now a days?
Old 8th March 2014
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There is NO reason to not put your computer on the net. There's this silly misconception that the internet is some kind of sea swimming with monsters that just want to get at you and your data all that time, steal your information, infect your computer, and destroy everything you own and kill your dog. Simply put; you are not that special. The only way that happens, typically, is if you are on an INTRAnet that is connected to other computers with viruses or other issues that crawl over onto yours, if you browse stupid websites, or download/install/open emails with apps from untrusted sources.

It is best to keep a computer ON the net because there's a reason that updates are released; they fix issues. If your machine isn't on the net, that doesn't happen. That's bad for many reasons.

I can understand keeping a mission critical machine off the net, I suppose (I've worked with big studios and producers that don't put their primary machines on the net), but I think that it's completely silly to be so scared of the internet, and it always has been. Even in the more wild west days of the net (the 90s), things weren't that bad.

In short; don't be scared of the internet.
Old 8th March 2014
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Im running an AMD sempron LOL

I make fat tracks on a single core

Surf, download, everything no problems but speed
Old 8th March 2014
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I have my work studio computer on the net only for doing updates or uploads to people once stuff is done etc… I am not so worried about virus's etc, but the main reasons for me are:

1. I have noticed I get better performance, or rather more performance on larger sessions with my airport turned off, etc… noticeably…. and if you ever look at your outgoing and incoming transmissions it seems like mother**cking Adobe is pinning my computer every 7 or 8 seconds to make sure I have the latest Flash or Reader update…. pretty frigging lame… I use ableton a lot to write, and cpu resources on that are more at a premium then say they are on Logic etc, so every little bit counts towards the end…

2. I hate distractions, like this site , Facebook, etc when writing etc… I kind of like woodshedding without the noise..

I don't worry about viruses too much, I don' t think I have got one in the wild since the wdef virus on a mac in 1992 on system 6 or 7...
Old 8th March 2014
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The point is, why would you want your MPW* on the internet? You should be working.

I keep mine connected to the network but dont use it for internet - it's just too finely tuned and believe me my laptop, which is my everything else workhorse, does pick up an incredible amount of crap through day to day surfing and whatnot..

where do you think all those targeted Facebook ads come from? luck? some sites really are too risky to use on a machine where every single byte and CPU cycle is needed for the working practice of music making.

*Music Production Workstation
Old 8th March 2014
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I use a Netgear plugin wireless receiver.

If I need to download, register or update software, I plug the Netgear in to a USB port, do what I need to do and then disconnect from the net. Simple. But I still don't browse the web with my studio computer. I have a laptop for that stuff.
Old 8th March 2014
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I don't have our main computer online. It can slow performance down, and introduce potential liabilities. Other than using certain apps to work realtime with other artists/clients (which I don't do on our main computer) there is absolutely no benefit to it. And to those who think viruses are not an issue, well you are just plain wrong. I work with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of intellectual property, and the last thing I want to do is have it compromised by any number of threats and have to explain to my clients why their property is no longer either secure, or as we last left it.
Old 8th March 2014
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I don't have my DAW on the net. But I have a removable drive bay and I put in another drive that has an OS on it and when I want to go on the net I boot to that drive instead.
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Originally Posted by brianbotkiller ➡️
There is NO reason to not put your computer on the net. There's this silly misconception that the internet is some kind of sea swimming with monsters that just want to get at you and your data all that time, steal your information, infect your computer, and destroy everything you own and kill your dog. Simply put; you are not that special. The only way that happens, typically, is if you are on an INTRAnet that is connected to other computers with viruses or other issues that crawl over onto yours, if you browse stupid websites, or download/install/open emails with apps from untrusted sources.


In short; don't be scared of the internet.
This is simply a bunch of hogwash. Wait, you are right. People would NEVER do anything harmful to one another. Least of all, mess with someone else's private data.
Old 9th March 2014
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I've been into computer since 1978, I have never put my DAW computer on the net & I never will.
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There is NO reason to not put your computer on the net.
It is best to keep a computer ON the net because there's a reason that updates are released; they fix issues. If your machine isn't on the net, that doesn't happen. That's bad for many reasons.

I can understand keeping a mission critical machine off the net, I suppose (I've worked with big studios and producers that don't put their primary machines on the net), but I think that it's completely silly to be so scared of the internet, and it always has been. Even in the more wild west days of the net (the 90s), things weren't that bad.

In short; don't be scared of the internet.
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There is a difference between being scared and being safe. Notice even you referred to "big studios?" Why do you think they don't?

If you use your DAW and associated tools every day you will know about updates/upgrades via mail. Every company I know of sends me notices. And actually it's not best to automatically upgrade/update until you are aware of what will happen.

If you don't go to questionable sites, then you are probably relatively safe especially with good tools...many of them free. But even with some of those good tools, if you don't uncheck a lot of adware/toolbars etc when installing its going to slow your PC down.
Old 9th March 2014
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My workstation is on the net because I actually - use - the net in the studio. I upload mixes and upload and download stems and even occasionally download drum maps and things while I'm working... or download a software update while I'm working.

I also keep Norton running on it all the time with no ill effect.

Turning off the network adapter or wi-fi connection when you don't need it takes all of 5 seconds.
Old 9th March 2014
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Mine is often on. I've not been able to measure any discernible impact on performance and haven't had the slightest issue with security. I use WSE and have virtually no "crap" running in the background. It runs lean and mean. IT guy for 20+ years, FWIW.

I have Automatic Updates turned off. We sure as hell didn't update our tape machines and mixers every week in the old days. I built this rig to do a job and it does that. The machine works flawlessly and I see no need to "fix" it. I'm going to ride it into the ground as-is.

In any case, the connectivity is convenient when checking for the occasional driver or GS opinion, not to mention file transfer. I have other workstations for civilian activities.
Old 9th March 2014
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I still haven't changed. My DAW never EVER goes online, in fact my main MacPro doesn't even have a Wifi card of any kind. I do have a computer right next to it though IS online, and a simple KVM switch. I usually keep a thumbdrive attached to the keyboard (to share files between computers), so which ever computer I'm currently 'controlling' will have the thumbdrive mounted. You just have to remember to eject the thumbdrive before hitting the KVM switch.
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I still haven't changed. My DAW never EVER goes online, in fact my main MacPro doesn't even have a Wifi card of any kind. I do have a computer right next to it though IS online, and a simple KVM switch. I usually keep a thumbdrive attached to the keyboard (to share files between computers), so which ever computer I'm currently 'controlling' will have the thumbdrive mounted. You just have to remember to eject the thumbdrive before hitting the KVM switch.
This is the way i roll more often than not. Once in a while i have all computers on the network and that makes things a little easier.

My KVM switch doesnt get along real well with Windows7. Theres always an issue when one of the computers goes to sleep.

Flash drives are ok, but if you are doing a lot of mixes they get a bit annoying after a while. Esp if you have any that are identical.

Ejecting a flash drive in XP shuts the light off on the flash drive, so you tell by looking if they have been ejected or not. Not in Windows7.

Its SO nice exporting right into dropbox


Annoying is - 2 mice 2 monitors 2 keyboards ect...... and the worst of it is if you have two video monitors on your desk, it makes it real hard to set your audio monitors up in a 36x36x36 triangle. Near impossible, unless one video monitor is directly above the other video monitor and both are between the audio monitors...or else one video monitor is shoved off to the side somewhere.
Old 9th March 2014
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When I switched to OS X, I kept it online.
Old 9th March 2014
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I guess it still bothers me a bit, but do people even get viruses anymore?

I use nothing but free antivir and havent had a virus in 4 years (knock on wood) and that was the ONLY, in the last 10 years....i really only go to about 10 different sites that i consistently spend time on.

I dont even HEAR of people getting viruses anymore. at least not critical.

I have sooooooo many less headaches when i simply use one/single computer.

How do you guys feel? whats the risk now a days?
And that's why.

Since you're only visiting 10 sites regularly, you're reducing the risk substantially, by several orders of magnitude.

I deal with malware clean-up on a regular basis; trust me: it still happens, a lot.

As long as there's money to made by stealing from others, malware will always be a threat.

As for anti-virus vendors, sometimes the good guys (if you can call them that) win, sometimes they lose. We support dozens of anti-virus/malware products on the market and some pick up the latest zero day threats, others don't; rinse and repeat 3-4 months later, and the one that detected the threat last time now doesn't.

The problem is, the anti-virus software may have billions of threat signatures, but a very small fraction of those signatures are actually referenced during real-time/on-access scans. The reasoning is that your computer is simply not fast enough to process billions of signatures against every new process or memory address space in real-time, while continuing to function as a usable tool.

And then there's the bad guys: they find a new exploit (that they buy on the black market, sometimes from the researchers who tell the Microsofts and Adobes of the world of the problem, who promptly do nothing for 3 months because they don't want to interfere with their update schedule or marketing agenda), they run their exploit against the top 3-5 anti-virus vendors du jour, using various cloaking techniques and encryption to ensure that their exploit gets past the threat heuristics that the anti-virus vendors employ to detect "suspicious" activity that may not have a signature...

... so yeah, I'd leave the Internet off (and put the studio machine on a different network from your Internet network if your router supports VLANs or DMZ).
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Originally Posted by brianbotkiller ➡️
There is NO reason to not put your computer on the net. There's this silly misconception that the internet is some kind of sea swimming with monsters that just want to get at you and your data all that time, steal your information, infect your computer, and destroy everything you own and kill your dog. Simply put; you are not that special. The only way that happens, typically, is if you are on an INTRAnet that is connected to other computers with viruses or other issues that crawl over onto yours, if you browse stupid websites, or download/install/open emails with apps from untrusted sources.
Or maybe there's NO reason to put your computer on the net.

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It is best to keep a computer ON the net because there's a reason that updates are released; they fix issues. If your machine isn't on the net, that doesn't happen. That's bad for many reasons.
If your footprint is small (and it really should be on a dedicated DAW), there aren't going to be any issues to fix ... you're not on the Internet, downloading patches and software so what's there to fix? Your machine's configuration is in a static state, so what's changing?

Take a Windows 7 build, patch to the latest Service Pack, install interface/converters/hardware with latest drivers/firmware, install DAW. Test thoroughly; disable Network Adapter. Review annually or whenever hardware changes or DAW gets updated, whichever comes first.

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Originally Posted by brianbotkiller ➡️
I can understand keeping a mission critical machine off the net, I suppose (I've worked with big studios and producers that don't put their primary machines on the net), but I think that it's completely silly to be so scared of the internet, and it always has been. Even in the more wild west days of the net (the 90s), things weren't that bad.
For a small business owner that solely relies on their DAW to generate revenue, I would say it's mission-critical, absolutely. Again, if you don't require the Internet, why have it?

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In short; don't be scared of the internet.
Be very afraid of the Internet: there's a global black/gray market economy that's flourishing on attitudes like this. They don't care about you -- you're not important -- you're just fuel for the war machine: they want your always-on, high-speed Internet connection, NAT'ed behind your American IP address to proxy attacks against others who have geoblocking on their firewalls; they want your FTP credentials to your quaint studio website to inject browser plugin exploits into your webpages to infect all your website visitors with malware... they want your Yahoo mail credentials to send exploit emails to all your contacts in your contact list... they want your Facebook credentials to to spam your friends in your Friend's list and post malware links on your wall... they want your PayPal credentials to... and the beat goes on...

You can pick up a refurb Core 2 Duo laptop from a liquidator for < $200 that can be parked right beside your DAW for any web surfing/email checking you need to do, so why incur the risk with your DAW if you don't have to?
Old 9th March 2014
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Originally Posted by dirtbird ➡️
I guess it still bothers me a bit, but do people even get viruses anymore?
The ways to get a bad show stopping virus is by doing one of these things...

1. Dropping your router firewall ...or...
2. Running a bad file or active script or torrent app, you don't know where it came from or what it does (freeware?) ... or...
3. Plugging in a client or buddies portable drive without any anti-virus scanning turned on.

Other than that, no need to worry so much imo. I've had a net connection in my Windows based studio for many, many years and the only time I ever got hit was when I dropped my router firewall for 2 minutes to access a store page that my router at the time was blocking... and I got hit with a kiddie virus. Live and learn.

People saying "NEVER" with big caps emphasis like it's still 1997, suggesting anyone who has a net connection to their daw computer are kinda stupid, are mostly just kinda paranoid. You take reasonable steps to protect yourself like not browsing porn sites, never drop your router firewall, and virus scan any drives you plug into your system.

Ask yourself this question... "When was the last time you got hit with a major virus on your regular net computer, causing you to have to wipe it, losing all your files?". If it has ever happened, ask yourself - why - that happened. If your normal home system that's on the net all the time hasn't been hit in the last 15 years... what makes you think your daw computer will be?

As a general side note to hacking and scipts and all that, I would avoid using MS Internet Explorer on Win on any system. Use something safer, something without Windows scripting.
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they want your Yahoo mail credentials to send exploit emails to all your contacts in your contact list... they want your Facebook credentials to to spam your friends in your Friend's list and post malware links on your wall... they want your PayPal credentials to... and the beat goes on...

You can pick up a refurb Core 2 Duo laptop from a liquidator for < $200 that can be parked right beside your DAW for any web surfing/email checking you need to do, so why incur the risk with your DAW if you don't have to?
Appreciate all of the thoughts for sure.... but thats the thing, you dont put this stuff on your DAW. If theyre going to attack, its going to be the refurb Core 2 Duo.

If we put our DAW online what are we REALLY giving access to? Audio files.....that should be backed up anyway. Having a refurb Core 2 Duo online is a lot bigger risk than a DAW as far as our personal info getting out i think.
Old 9th March 2014
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The ways to get a bad show stopping virus is by doing one of these things...

1. Dropping your router firewall or...
2. Running a bad file or active script, you don't know where it does or...
3. Popping in a client or buddies portable drive without any anti-virus scanning turned on.

Other than that, no need to worry so much imo. I've had a net connection in my Windows based studio for years and the only time I ever got hit was when I dropped my router firewall for 2 minutes.

People saying NEVER with big caps like it's still 2001 suggesting anyone who has a net connection to their daw computer are kinda stupid are mostly just kinda paranoid. You take steps to protect yourself.
Very realistic here. Basically, If you use your head a bit theres not a lot to worry about. Especially if your actions are consistent. Like i said, one show stopping virus in 10 years with nothing but freeware is something IMO. (they held me ransom tho - i had to wipe it clean - we figured a trojan turned the firewall off lol) a major inconvenience, but really no harm...that i know of.
Old 9th March 2014
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Computers are cheap enough to be purpose built and tuned JUST for the studio. Internet means antivirus software which in turns means more crap running and more latency despite the security risks (remember by the time an antivirus app updates it's files to prevent a new threat, that threat has already struck). If you want internet in the studio, pick up a used $150 laptop off craigslist and surf away. Studio computers are best kept as clean and fast as possible with configurations locked in for periods of time for stability. You also have a legal liability issue as you are storing the work product of others so reasonable protection is in order. Small businesses don't have their critical operations computers online, what is any different with a studio business? If you want to be known as a serious business then you must act like one.

For those doing internet on their studio rigs, run a latency checker app (DCP Latency Checker) and note what you are getting. Now turn off networking in the bios and turn off all the background crap including the the antivirus and see how much latency you are getting. If you need a comparison with a tuned studio rig (Intel 3770K CPU) I'm at 15us average, highest peak 30us (right when the app starts up). If you are not in this ballpark with a new rig then you are giving up latency. Studios run rigs where real time performance is critical.

I'm sure software makers want you to be online for them to phone home for DRM control and data mining but you incur the performance hit and loss of privacy. Just say no internet on studio rigs.
Old 9th March 2014
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One other note. If you use a home network to share files between your studio system and your other computers you probably don't want to use shared network folders on your studio system if you have other multiple use computers in your home, like the kids on the same home network browsing gaming sites and porn and torrents all that.

Reason being, a virus can propagate through your entire home network so don't use shared folders on your studio computer if you use home networking and lots of other people in your home are using the network on other computers for all kinds of other stuff. Safer in a commercial situation since people aren't really (or shouldn't be) doing any of that stuff.
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Originally Posted by dirtbird ➡️
Appreciate all of the thoughts for sure.... but thats the thing, you dont put this stuff on your DAW. If theyre going to attack, its going to be the refurb Core 2 Duo.

If we put our DAW online what are we REALLY giving access to? Audio files.....that should be backed up anyway. Having a refurb Core 2 Duo online is a lot bigger risk than a DAW as far as our personal info getting out i think.
You put the laptop on the guest (or DMZ) wireless network; two different subnets, firewall rules in between, so laptop cannot talk to DAW.

The point is, the laptop gets infected, you turn it off until you can clean it up and you go back to working on your DAW. The DAW gets infected, the machine's not stable, .dlls and processes are hijacked and it becomes unusable for client work.

Factor in a rebuild/restore and you'll down for a day if you know what you're doing, not including opportunity costs.
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The ways to get a bad show stopping virus is by doing one of these things...

1. Dropping your router firewall ...or...
2. Running a bad file or active script or torrent app, you don't know where it came from or what it does (freeware?) ... or...
3. Plugging in a client or buddies portable drive without any anti-virus scanning turned on.

Other than that, no need to worry so much imo. I've had a net connection in my Windows based studio for many, many years and the only time I ever got hit was when I dropped my router firewall for 2 minutes to access a store page that my router at the time was blocking... and I got hit with a kiddie virus. Live and learn.

People saying "NEVER" with big caps emphasis like it's still 1997, suggesting anyone who has a net connection to their daw computer are kinda stupid, are mostly just kinda paranoid. You take reasonable steps to protect yourself like not browsing porn sites, never drop your router firewall, and virus scan any drives you plug into your system.

Ask yourself this question... "When was the last time you got hit with a major virus on your regular net computer, causing you to have to wipe it, losing all your files?". If it has ever happened, ask yourself - why - that happened. If your normal home system that's on the net all the time hasn't been hit in the last 15 years... what makes you think your daw computer will be?

As a general side note to hacking and scipts and all that, I would avoid using MS Internet Explorer on Win on any system. Use something safer, something without Windows scripting.
Sorry, but these precautions is absolutely moot nowadays. Firewall means nothing: nobody's firewall is doing any outbound filtering or inspection, and if it was, there's no stopping you from going to a malicious site with an unpatched version of Flash or Java running on your machine, and getting a drive-by virus. It happens all the time, and I'm not talking about illegal pirating websites either: we had a mid-sized company client of ours who was having a company picnic that was being held at a local campground/waterpark; nothing illegal there, but the campground website that was linked in the email that went around had a malicious script injected into the web server that was exploiting a zero-day vulnerability in a Wordpress plugin (that they used to run the website) that installed a trojan on the visitors. The trojan downloaded the CryptoLocker virus and had a keylogger along with a sniffer looking for Filezilla FTP to steal FTP credentials to find more sites to inject malware into...

Long story short, nothing illegal, nothing out of the ordinary, they just happened to go to a seemingly harmless campground website to look for directions... this happens all the time.

If it hasn't happened to you (or you don't know it has: who says a trojan or virus has to be obvious? Could be silently running and keylogging or using your machine to send out spam and you wouldn't even notice).

All I'm saying is the DAW/studio environment is one of those situations where Internet is typically not a requirement for your business to function, so why risk it?
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Sorry, but these precautions is absolutely moot nowadays. Firewall means nothing: nobody's firewall is doing any outbound filtering or inspection, and if it was, there's no stopping you from going to a malicious site with an unpatched version of Flash or Java running on your machine, and getting a drive-by virus.
Try to follow the context. For what reason exactly would a professional studio owner whose computer is on the net go to a malicious site... as opposed to maybe only going to sites where he bought stuff, to upgrade, places he knows are safe?

It's almost like people make arguments just to argue. Like I said, my computer has always been on and off the net (switchable obviously) and I've not had any issues. I'm sure there are millions of others who can say the same. We all walk outside and we all may get hit by a runaway car at any time but we still walk outside.

I would agree though, if a person is a total idiot he should probably keep his studio system off the net because he might do something dumb like surf a Russian porn site.

There is precaution and care and there is paranoia. Just because something bad - can - happen doesn't mean it often actually does. I've not personally worked at any major corporation whose systems for my job wasn't always able to get on the net at any time, in fact, they used the net to connect to the company network, and I could browse the general net ... and I would hazard a guess their files and systems are more critical than mine.

Do you really think all professional persons with computers are afraid to use the net with their working systems? Lawyers, accountants, random tech people, all kinds of people who use computers for their critical work? Really? They just - never - connect their working computers to the net because it oh so dangerous? Really? Or is it more likely the case that most just use ordinary common sense and the overwhelming majority never have any issue?

Or are our little personal music projects just way more important than all that stuff?

It's all kinda silly to me personally. Somewhere out there is a laywer who spent two weeks and hundreds of hours researching and writing a brief for a capital murder case, literal life and death, with his systems having net connections like most everyone else, but some guy running loops with Cubase in his basement is afraid he might lose the song he wrote yesterday if he goes on the net with his studio rig.
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Used to reinstall Windows XP a lot due to viruses and crashes but with Win 7 and 8 I haven't had a single problem since 2010. Microsoft windows defender got perfect reviews from many websites and magazines and it kept me safe all these years. My computers have been logged into the net all day every day. I scan with other virus and adware checkers now and again to make sure Win Defender is not missing anything but they never find anything. I think the only way to get a virus on Win 7 or 8 is to click on a download from some scam site and install it.
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i just have a separate laptop for the net...

Studio pc once setup and updated stays that way and will never connect to the net..

I prefer to make music than spend my time fault finding following something related to the old interweb surfing!!

lifes simpler that way and i maintain concentration on the mix as i'm not side tracked by emails or any of that crap.
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Try to follow the context. For what reason exactly would a professional studio owner whose computer is on the net go to a malicious site... as opposed to maybe only going to sites where he bought stuff, to upgrade, places he knows are safe?
Apparently you didn't read my post, but the whole point is that you could be going to a legitimate website and get a drive-by infection.
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... but the whole point is that you could be going to a legitimate website and get a drive-by infection.
And you could get run over and killed by a mail truck while walking down the sidewalk. What's the point exactly? That bad things can happen sometimes so... never go outside?

I think things like Dropbox are pretty clear evidence that many people's studio systems are on or can be easily switched onto the net. They just use common sense and - unless someone can demonstrate otherwise with reliable data - I'm pretty sure that the vast majority never have any issue.

I often print client mixes directly to a live Dropbox folder... which requires being on the net for it to upload. With common sense, it's an easily acceptable and pretty low risk.

To be clear, if a person chooses to keep his system off the net, that's fine, personal choice. I just kinda disagree with the reasons some people give, that's it's really dangerous. I think, mathematically speaking, the risk is pretty low with any common sense use and (of course) you don't have to keep it enabled - all - the time, but switch it on when you need it. Of course, keeping it off the net is zero risk of downloading or getting a virus from the net with that system, but not actually zero risk of getting a virus on that system.

Plugging in other people's USB drives and similar is (imo, mmv) much more risky... especially if anti virus isn't running on the system.
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