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Old 15th February 2016 | Show parent
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For those looking for a 24 channel or more adat to usb device:

EXBOX.UMA
having difficulty finding a price on that one
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having difficulty finding a price on that one
Not cheap, I saw one for sale on eBay for well over $900...that's USED!
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Not cheap, I saw one for sale on eBay for well over $900...that's USED!
yeah haha.. I can imagine
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Have you tried any of the distributors? They will be able to tell you what retailers they service that can get you a price and order.

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Have you tried any of the distributors? They will be able to tell you what retailers they service that can get you a price and order.

DirectOut - Distribution World
I looked at HHB but nothing seemed to come up. no worries, thanks for the help.
it's probably too much of a specialist tool for my requirements. it's small
and powerful though I expect.
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Not cheap, I saw one for sale on eBay for well over $900...that's USED!




yeah haha.. I can imagine
If one simply MUST have it ...a little too rich for my blood

There are far less expensive solutions to getting adat I/O's. Such as, a used Motu with 3 adat I/O's, or an M-Audio that has 4 adat I/O. Although these are FireWire based, I believe they can be used as stand-alone converters.

Actually the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge, with 4 adat I/O via FireWire looks strikingly similar to the EBOX.UMA

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I looked at HHB but nothing seemed to come up. no worries, thanks for the help.
it's probably too much of a specialist tool for my requirements. it's small
and powerful though I expect.
HHB is just a distributor. Any retailer supplied by HHB will be able to track down price for you.
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having difficulty finding a price on that one
Thomann ship to UK for £584. If you can find a UK stockist it may be a few quid cheaper but not much.
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Thomann ship to UK for £584. If you can find a UK stockist it may be a few quid cheaper but not much.
yeah, well that's not so bad. thing is it's pretty future proofed.
I just can't get myself off on the normal soundcard market.
it's racked with tie ins and future support issues.
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If one simply MUST have it ...a little too rich for my blood

There are far less expensive solutions to getting adat I/O's. Such as, a used Motu with 3 adat I/O's, or an M-Audio that has 4 adat I/O. Although these are FireWire based, I believe they can be used as stand-alone converters.

Actually the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge, with 4 adat I/O via FireWire looks strikingly similar to the EBOX.UMA

this might be a case in point. the support of these doesn't look so reliable.
which is a shame
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this might be a case in point. the support of these doesn't look so reliable.
which is a shame
Support for what, the EXBOX.UMA? M-Audio ProFire lightbridge? or both?

Regardless, with any interface - or any other device for that matter - anything can become obsolete and subsequently not be supported by the manufacturer at some point. I guess it's up to the buyer to decide if any particular device will work with their current system in it's entirety, and for how long one expects to be using that system.

In my case, I'm considering a CHEAP (squeak, squeak) solution to be able to accept three optical adat signals from three different music PC's own audio interfaces, and then route those 24 digital audio channels to a 4th 'mix PC'. With an old used MOTU 2408 (original MK1), they have 3 optical adat I/O, and can be had for as low as $50. Sure, obsolete, with no support though.
The original MK1's are only 20 bit in their RCA analog I/O's, but 'are' 24 bit in their digital audio I/O's. I'd only be using it for it's digital I/O's anyway. I may not even need to use a MOTU PCI card with a firewire host cable, using it in stand-alone mode as a converter... 24 digital channels In, stereo out via it's coaxial s/pdif to my mix PC's current sound cards s/pdif In. That is, if in stand-alone mode, it can mix all incoming adat's to it's s/pdif L/R out (?).
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Mac firewire audio devices are iff support as of El Capitan (10.11.0) on wards This why you see cheep apogee assembles (they still work but not supported) and Rme right there own drivers for f400 and f800 so there ok at the present but Firewire support in core audio is no longer 100%

I am not sure about the light bridge but I not sure it works with latest Macs well
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Support for what, the EXBOX.UMA? M-Audio ProFire lightbridge? or both?
I meant the profire lightbridge. It was discontinued and the last driver was released in 2011

the motu gear has always been good with backwards compatibility, but they
have a whole new range now, so I'm not sure how much longer that will last.
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Hi !
first of all thanks a lot for the very interesting thread.
I read most of it but I do not understand if anyone is actually using with satisfaction one of these usb/adat converters.
I am a little concerned about possible jitter increase especially using adat ports.
But I do not have first hand experience.
I have instead a usb to aes/ebu interface, this one here

https://www.thomann.de/gb/yellowtec_puc2.htm



I wonder which option could be better for digital transfer.
Aes/ebu or adat ?
Thanks a lot again, gino
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I wonder which option could be better for digital transfer.
Aes/ebu or adat ?
Thanks a lot again, gino
It should make no difference. Properly designed gear will exchange the exact same data via either format. Having said that, AES is pretty much foolproof and, given the choice, I prefer it.
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Not to nit-pick further, but USB is a computer data protocol, whereas Adat is a digital audio protocol. They are different things, even though they are both digital. USB and firewire are not simply defined by anything like sample-rate, bit-depth, although they can act as containers carrying such data. Digital audio is much more rigidly defined in terms of channel count, sample-rate etc... So to 'convert' Adat to USB is not really a simple digital audio 'conversion'; it generally requires a driver (proprietary or class compliant) in order to communicate with other software, ie your daw. Therefore it is by necessity a form of interface that you must use.

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Well stated.......I was thinking this, but did not have the ability to put it in words.

Adat was a very early digital standard that does a poor job of managing word clock. I think it's about the same quality as SPDIF. Both are a huge step below the MADI or AES protocol. Consumer vs. Pro

Not to be confused with USB, Firewire, SCSI, Thunderbolt, etc.... that are cable & data formats. Audio requires more definition/context to work.

All that stated....bla bla bla, I have the same problem.

I would love to take the USB outputs of a Kronos and convert that to Smux-Adat to get 4 channels into my Alpha link AX. But this goes against an early system decision. I run the word clock in a way ADAT is not available. Even allowing the system to use ADAT signals (MADI switches) degraded the sound quality of the entire system....just a small bit....that nobody but me would hear. Wild ass guess (WAG) I bet the word clock restrictions/specs have to become loose to allow ADAT.
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It should make no difference. Properly designed gear will exchange the exact same data via either format.
Having said that, AES is pretty much foolproof and, given the choice, I prefer it.
Hi ! thanks a lot for the very helpful reply.
From what I have ready execution quality is important especially for toslink.
The only really good standard is the AT&T, almost as rare as a white fly.
I will try to use AES then.
Thanks again, gino
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The jitter issue mentioned above can and is to solved in the sink device. The problem is, that ADAT has no real option to be syched and comes with its own base frequency and jitter on each channel. This requires some processing in either a chip or (as stated at the beginning of the thread at the first page) with an FPGA. I am doing so in my sound system and also perform resampling, when necessary. But as soon as you are synching your devices with e.g. a word clock, the jitter introduced by the lightpipe and it's surounding electical circuitry is not an issue anymore.
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still no ADAT to USB interface :(

i need one :(
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still no ADAT to USB interface :(

i need one :(
But there are. Where are you not looking? How many channels do you need?
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But there are. Where are you not looking? How many channels do you need?
8 adat to usb
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8 adat to usb
It's already been mentioned in this thread, but these are as about as cheap and idiotproof as it can get. I have one. CoreAudio, so no extra drivers needed. Also works with your iOS devices.

USB STREAMER
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It's already been mentioned in this thread, but these are as about as cheap and idiotproof as it can get. I have one. CoreAudio, so no extra drivers needed. Also works with your iOS devices.

USB STREAMER
i need ADAT --> USB
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i need ADAT --> USB
And....this isn't?
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And....this isn't?
they say:
Operates as USB to Toslink (Stereo up to 192k) or USB to ADAT(up to 8channels at 48/44.1kHz)

USB --> ADAT
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i need ADAT --> USB
This device has in and out...unless I am confused it can do that.
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they say:
Operates as USB to Toslink (Stereo up to 192k) or USB to ADAT(up to 8channels at 48/44.1kHz)

USB --> ADAT
So how does "USB to ADAT(up to 8channels at 48/44.1kHz)" not comport with "USB --> ADAT"

Sorry, you're losing me. What does this not do that you want it to do?
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This device has in and out...unless I am confused it can do that.
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It's already been mentioned in this thread, but these are as about as cheap and idiotproof as it can get. I have one. CoreAudio, so no extra drivers needed. Also works with your iOS devices.

USB STREAMER
Fascinating. This is the first box of its kind I've seen.
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So how does "USB to ADAT(up to 8channels at 48/44.1kHz)" not comport with "USB --> ADAT"

Sorry, you're losing me. What does this not do that you want it to do?
i need ADAT to USB,

i dont need USB to ADAT
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