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Old 1 week ago
  #5401
And another contender appears…



A bit pricey for a 2-2 interface, but the onboard DSP (EQ + compression) is unique at this price point, and the ability to change routings and DSP settings natively on the iPad.

Just one mic preamp though. I’m sure there will be additional versions in the future with more I/O.

As for aesthetics, it certainly has… a look
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  #5402
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by monkeyxx ➡️
In the mean time, RME Digiface USB catches every converter I own, pipes it down that simple ass USB 2.0 cord... incredible.
I also use Digiface Usb, it rocks! Just have problem finding outputs, i have ada8200 but would like something with better quality. I also have asp800 but that doesnt have DA. Tought about buying audiofuse 8pre but there is not enough info about it. Do you have any idea?
Old 5 days ago
  #5403
Gear Head
 
Hey folks, just found this thread and my gear nerd brain is in heaven. A quick question for those who may be able to speak to it:

I use a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 Gen 1 (USB 2.0) for all my tracking, monitoring, reamping, etc. right now. I have a good amount of outboard gear that I usually use during the recording and engineering process, not so much the mixing process. However, I do have an outboard Bus comp that I run my full session through.

In order to improve latency (primarily through driver stability) and speed, I've been debating getting a PCIe card w/ Firewire 800 connector, as I've looked up online that Firewire 800 can actually run faster than USB 2.0. I'm thinking I buy an RME Fireface 800 and run that into the PCIe, and have that replace everything.

Any advice on this? I primarily care about driver stability because the latency on my mixbus outboard gear loop with the Focusrite during mixes is just insane.
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  #5404
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Originally Posted by PaleCriminal ➡️
Hey folks, just found this thread and my gear nerd brain is in heaven. A quick question for those who may be able to speak to it:

I use a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 Gen 1 (USB 2.0) for all my tracking, monitoring, reamping, etc. right now. I have a good amount of outboard gear that I usually use during the recording and engineering process, not so much the mixing process. However, I do have an outboard Bus comp that I run my full session through.

In order to improve latency (primarily through driver stability) and speed, I've been debating getting a PCIe card w/ Firewire 800 connector, as I've looked up online that Firewire 800 can actually run faster than USB 2.0. I'm thinking I buy an RME Fireface 800 and run that into the PCIe, and have that replace everything.

Any advice on this? I primarily care about driver stability because the latency on my mixbus outboard gear loop with the Focusrite during mixes is just insane.

FW is a dead protocol these days so I’d avoid if buying new. Modern USB-2/3 drivers are very fast these days from the likes of RME etc so no worries there with regard to latency.

TB has taken over from FW and CAN provide good results too.
Interesting that RME haven’t gone TB.

M
Old 4 days ago | Show parent
  #5405
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🎧 5 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️
FW is a dead protocol these days so I’d avoid if buying new. Modern USB-2/3 drivers are very fast these days from the likes of RME etc so no worries there with regard to latency.

TB has taken over from FW and CAN provide good results too.
Interesting that RME haven’t gone TB.

M
They have gone TB on their higher channel count interfaces like the 188-Channel Fireface UFX+

I'll just put this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSIf4QGYs-c
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  #5406
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️
FW is a dead protocol these days so I’d avoid if buying new. Modern USB-2/3 drivers are very fast these days from the likes of RME etc so no worries there with regard to latency.

TB has taken over from FW and CAN provide good results too.
Interesting that RME haven’t gone TB.

M
RME didn't really embrace TB for numerous reasons, Matthias gives some detail on my pod cast if interested.

FWIW - TB has always been, and remains a bit of a cluster on Windows IMO , with multiple curves being navigated between various versions of the protocol. I had an early TB2 setup on a dev system that even worked in Windows 7 on both RME and Lynx interfaces , but that interface card was almost unicorn rare.

There are 2 revisions of TB3, where I had good success with the prior ( Alpine Ridge ), but mixed on the later ( Titan Ridge ). Now TB4 adds a few additional curves regards compatibility for TB2 interfaces , as the current TB3 to TB2 interfaces are not guaranteed to work.

RME has recently EOL'ed the UFX+ , Focusrite shifted focus off TB for their Clarett range , and from your recent experience with the UA, something has shifted there performance wise, so its not a given that TB is necessarily better. We also aren't seeing a flood of new TB interfaces coming to market , so lets say I am far from convinced that will change in future.

@ PaleCriminal ,

If going PCIe , get a PCIe HDSPe card with what ever is the best configuration for you, and hook it up with an ADAT AD/DA ( upto 48K / 96K ), or an HDSPe AES/MADI FX for upto 192K with a matching AD/DA.

Ferrofish has good solutions for both ADAT and MADI.

FF800 were great for their time, but are over 15 years old , and didn't have any better performance under FF800 than FF400, nor are they as fast as the current RME USB 2.0 interfaces.

Times have moved on :-)


Last edited by TAFKAT; 2 days ago at 09:18 PM.. Reason: Amended typo's
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  #5407
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by TAFKAT ➡️
RME didn't really embrace TB for numerous reasons, Matthias gives some detail on my pod cast if interested.

FWIW - TB has always been, and remains a bit of a cluster on Windows IMO , with multiple curves being navigated between various versions of the protocol. I had an early TB2 setup on a dev system that even worked in Windows 7 on both RME and Lynx interfaces , but that interface card was almost unicorn rare.

There are 2 revisions of TB3, where I had good success with the prior ( Alpine Ridge ), but mixed on the later ( Titan Ridge ). Now TB4 adds a few additional curves regards compatibility for TB2 interfaces , as the current TB3 to TB2 interfaces are not guaranteed to work.

RME has recently EOL'ed the UFX+ , Focusrite shifted focus off TB for their Clarett range , and from your recent experience with the UA, something has shifted there performance wise, so its not a given that TB is necessarily better. We also aren't seeing a flood of new TB interfaces coming to market , so lets say I am far from convinced that will change in future.

@ PaleCriminal ,

If going PCIe , get a PCIe HDSPe card with what ever is the best configuration for you, and hook it up with an ADAT AD/DA ( upto 48K / 96K ), or and HSPe AES/MADI FX for upt to 192K with a matching AD/DA.

Ferrofish has good solutions for both ADAT and MADI.

FF800 were great for their time, but are over 15 years old , and didn't have any better performance under FF800 than FF400, nor are they as fast as the current RME USB 2.0 interfaces.

Times have moved on :-)

Vin.

I've just bought a ferrofish and an HSPe card

I'm interested to see how it compares with my AXR4 USB-3 (C) interface in both performance and sound quality

I know the RME will give me years of professional service and have good resale value regardless though


Stay well.





M
Old 2 days ago
  #5408
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Thanks all!
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  #5409
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🎧 15 years
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Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️
Vin.

I've just bought a ferrofish and an HSPe card
Hey Marcus,

Ha, your ears must have been ringing ;-)

Quote:
I'm interested to see how it compares with my AXR4 USB-3 (C) interface in both performance and sound quality
I would be interested to hear your feedback , as I don't have the opportunity here in Oz to get across the Steinberg interfaces from the official source, so to speak, and the ARX units are 3.5K+ here, and pre order only, so haven't had a client that has gone that route to allow me a play :-(

I only see the TB version being offered local, so is the USB3 version a later additional ?

Quote:
I know the RME will give me years of professional service and have good resale value regardless though
For the vast majority of my RME clients, the PCIe solutions are a lifetime purchase , and I have had some awesome feedback on the Ferrofish units as well. I have one of the earlier units, the A16 MkII as one of my bench qualification units

Keep me in the loop

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  #5410
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I still have my FF800 (bought March 2007) and use it as my primary interface on the PC. The PSU needed replacing after the power went out during Hurricane Sandy, but other than that, the only issue I ever had is random bluescreens with an "IRQL Not Equal" error. Last night, I turned it on and every light on the unit was flashing and I was hearing a popping sound out of my monitors. I thought for sure that was it, it was dead, time to replace it. I cycled the power and it went right back to normal.

I keep thinking I'll get a UFX II, but I'm avoiding the expense as long as the FF800 is still working. Looks like prices went up on the UFX II though and they're not in stock at Sweetwater. Supply chain I suppose. Any rumors of a new, similar, RME interface?
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  #5411
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️
Vin.

I've just bought a ferrofish and an HSPe card

I'm interested to see how it compares with my AXR4 USB-3 (C) interface in both performance and sound quality
I know the RME will give me years of professional service and have good resale value regardless though ...

I use exactly that.
RME HDSPe RayDat + Ferrofish A16 and still rock solid since 2015.
7 Years and I hope to many more ahead.

and with 2+3ms in/out latency with 128 buffer

Last edited by papawise; 1 day ago at 09:17 PM.. Reason: and with 2+3ms in/out latency with 128 buffer ;)
Old 2 days ago
  #5412
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🎧 5 years
Ufx+ and 2 Ferrofish A32 via MADI, rocksolid
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