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Old 20th August 2002
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Upgrade cards good, worth it?

Anyone using Mac upgrade cards with success? Sonnetttech.com etc.?
Old 20th August 2002
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nds on what improvement your expecting... I put a sonnet G4 400 in my PT Beige G3 and its 300 times better than its standard 266 G3. Softsynths are a real viable propersition.
The perfromance won't be quite as hot on a 8500-9600 series Mac as the buss speed is slower, but still a vast iprovement.
I have 2 'real' G4 Macs also, and they are a fair bit quicker than my accelerated Beige. And if the prices of Sonnet hadn't come down I would say go for a second hand G4, But the upcoming G4800 and 1 Gig Sonnets look great value for money, especially if you have serial stuff you really wanna keep.

Any help?

Al.
Old 20th August 2002
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Yes, that's helpful. I was concerned about flaky operation or incompatibility with softwarr ala early AMD processors on the Win side. If I wanted to do 24 bit 96khz 24 track, is there enough bus speed in a G3 to deal with it? I assume one of the new sonnetts woudl have the proc speed. Have you tried 24/96 on your upgraded G3? When you talk about softsynths/samplers etc. are you talking about in addition to some audio tracks?
I would like to be able to score to a QT DV movie with the dialog track in DP and maybe Reason or the like.
Is this doable on yours?
Old 20th August 2002
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Rich,
There's certainly enough Buss speed yes. But the total system performance would depend on lots of other things.
some are:

a) what hard drives will you be recording onto?

b) how many plugs you expect to run also?

c) Amount of system Ram?

d) Which Accelerator your thinking of getting...

If you could give me/us some idea on these, then I could give a more definate opinion...

I run ProTools TDM hardware with either ProTools software or DP3. I have an ata66 (soon to be tempo trio) IDE accelerator. G4 400 sonnet and 2 x 30 Gig Seagate 7200rpm IDE Audio Drives. I can easily run my Mix's 64 tracks. Full TDM Plugs. 8 - 10 RTAS Plugs (depends on which ones) and 5 or 6 softsynths (native Insruments ProTools editions/Reaktor + Pluggo 3 mainly.)

Al.
Old 21st August 2002
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This is all speculation...wondering if picking up a used machine and upgrading it would be worthwhile. but i don't know..seems like there's a disconnect between the price people are asking for used vs the new pricing structure. Do you think teh prices on the Sonnett site willl be street price?
Old 21st August 2002
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If your starting from zero, then you'd be better off getting a used G4.

A 500mhz machine will not be as much as a Beige G3 then adding on the cost of a 500mhz G4 accel'. Plus Ram for Beige machines can be abit more expensive than for a G4. And the performance will be better, because of a) the buss speed will be higher. b) the Internal hard drive I/O is Ata 66 in the G4. And only Ata 16 in a Beige.

Al.
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