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Old 28th January 2009
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New system coming together

I'll be running Nuendo 3 and Scope (soniclcore) on an Intel s775 DP45SG with 2 GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz ram and an Asus 9600GT video card. Also 2 SATA2 500 GB Seagate 7200s. I'll have 3 cards: Pulsar 1 , Pulsar2 and SRB 1 on the PCI bus.

Would anyone out there running anything similar like to comment on stability or other issues, good or bad?


Old 29th January 2009
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i dont use your config.
only comment. for the drives i highly recommend 32 mb cache 7200.
so check the cache in those seagates.
daw work likes big caches in drives.

also be aware, and youll have to test this.
pci bus resources are not infinite.
haveing multiple pci cards can lead sometimes to resource contention.
a common problem is one pci device takeing control of the pci bus and locking out another device.
but as to whether this might occur in your case i just dont know.
youll have to test. i just want to make you aware of the possibility.

think of the pci bus like this..crudely. an analogy.
its 3am in the morning on a freeway, not much traffic so you can happily get to where you want to be with no traffic jams. (one pci device.)
at 9am traffic jams galore..(multiple pci devices ).

or even more crudely..one person wants to use a lonely washing machine..no probs..
lots of people..a queue develops, ..
in summary each pci device makes its own demands on resources.
some devices possibly more than others.
now haveing presented the above...you might have no probs on the pci issue.
it really depends on how the pci devices you install have been designed, which i have no way of knowing of course.
god bless.
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Hey Manning thanks for the reply. I hear you about the PCI bus. With 3 Creamware cards it will be busy indeed. I guess IRQ management is the next big issue and heat becomes the next consideration... extra case fans help.

I think I'm changing to an Intel DP35DP mobo after reading up on Planet Z...

This is an older MB, but these are old PCI cards and the two seem to get along well together.


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ok..thats good you see what i was getting at mate.
what i might suggest is to seek advice from creamware tech support.
they prolly know better than anyone re mainboard/system suggestions.
ask em what configs they use internally. thats what i would do.

be aware that , and i'm sure you know..
pci based dsp cards are puters in their own right.
they can be very very powerfull depending on engineering design goals.
and i suspect that in the years ahead, tho host intel and amd processors will obviously
get more cores and power upgrades...but..at the same time dsp processor designers prolly
wont be standing still EITHER... eg..the people behind sharc processors for example.
the reason i bring this up is...lets assume that your current dsp cards work flawlessly,
dont necessarily assume that any new super duper higher power dsp card will.

ie..if you have your heart set on say a new dsp card that blows yer mind a year from now.
at that point youll have to ascertain the best pc environment to run it on.
mebe it will run flawlessly in your current pc. but just dont assume so.

in theory the idea of offloading certain processing chores from the host processor
sounds good...but as with everything there is sometimes no free lunch.
in this case being carefull overloading the pci bus. ..and other impacts.
also i suspect the host daw software...in this case nuendo..is in constant communication
with the dsp based pci card. thus be aware n i dont care what the OS...
it could be the blinkety bloo OS...every task has to be managed and accounted for by an OS.
thus you can see where this is headed. the more "stuff" you add to a system, the more "stuff"
the OS has to manage and account for in task/process management.
thus increased overhead.

its sorta like..to use a crude analogy, the more appliances one has in ones house,
washers/dryers/tv's/puters/lans etc etc, the more possibility that "something" might
occur where one needs to do maintenance.
which is one reason ive simplified my lifestyle. lol. less to worry about.
unlike some relations of mine ..lol...who go n buy new big screen tv's , only to find down the road they might need maintenance.

god bless n every success.
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