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Old 15th January 2003
  #1
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🎧 15 years
OSX & ipod

2 questions. . .

is OSX better or worse than OS9.x for a Pro Tools TDM system??

i have OS9.2 now. it works fine, but i've been thinking about buying an ipod and everything i read tells me they work much better with OSX. so if Pro Tools works better/easier on OSX i might as well get it.

also- does anyone know if you can transfer Pro Tools sessions from a mac to a pc using the ipod as a hard drive??

any input on OSX and/or ipods would be greatly appreciated.
Old 15th January 2003
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🎧 15 years
Mike,
On an newish G4, the OSX version of ProTools should run very smooth, and even more reliably than the OS9 version.

OSX is a great OS on a recent machine, but it is more demanding in general on the Mac, so its not too pleasant to use on a G3 really. Not for demanding Pro Apps anyway.

Things like Midi timing should be way improved, and user interface responsivness should be superior too. It depends on other aspects of your system. I dont think I'd personally put it onto a Mac thats less than a G4 500mhz.

Concerning iPod.. Get one!! I wouldn't be without mine. You can use the ipod just as a Firewire hard drive. Albeit a pretty slow one. I got 16 Audio tracks off mine once, but I didnt get it for that purpose. So yes you can use it to transfer any data from Mac to Mac.

I'll maybe update my opinions of the OSX version of Tools, when I get my own copy. Very, very soon :-)

Al.
Old 16th January 2003
  #3
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thanks for the reply. . .

i have a G4, but it's only 400mhz!?!

i guess i should stay away from Jaguar then??

also, i'm more concerned w/ transfering sessions from my G4 to a PC via the ipod. i figured it could work Mac to Mac, but i'm unsure if there is any way to make a PC read it.

i'm ready to buy, i just want to make sure i know everything it can do before i drop the $$$.

ps. MCal. . .so, you've been using your ipod on OS9?? and it's been good??
Old 16th January 2003
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🎧 15 years
Yep iPod on OS9 is fine. No probs at all. I have an eMac at work running OS9 for Internet etc, and my Pod mounts on its desktop without a hassle.

I dont use windows really. But. I have Virtual PC on my Home G4 400 Internet Machine (running Jaguar - but not for music) And the iPod shows up fine in the 'My Computer' window. So it works as a Firewire Drive, but I haven't tried it for MP3's on Windows, and probably never will lol!! grggt

Any Help?

Al
Old 16th January 2003
  #5
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🎧 15 years
yeah, i appreciate the help.

i think i'm gonna have to talk to someone at Apple just to be sure.
the main reason i'd like to go for the ipod as opposed to another cheaper mp3 player, is the fact that you can use it as a harddrive. the problem is that the only other person i work w/ has Pro Tools LE on a PC. so i definitely need it to transfer files from my Mac to his PC.

my brain is fried from looking everywhere on the internet to get an answer.

if only i could fall asleep w/ an unanswered question.
***sigh****
***yawn***
***sigh****
Old 16th January 2003
  #6
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🎧 15 years
Groan

As I've stated elsewhere on these pages, I'm all osx except when I use Logic. So that means all my mail, diary stuff, documents, officy things, everything except logic i do on osx, and boot back and forth.

It was a real SHOCK just now when Logic crashed. It made me realise just how little (never) osx crashes. I'd got out of the habit of saving everything every five minutes like a paranoid nutter!

Roll on osx. I want to forget was a crash is again.
Old 16th January 2003
  #7
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🎧 15 years
ok, i've decided to go for the ipod.

but now. . .before i call Mac Mall. . .

can i (i want to) get OSX if i'm on a G4 400Mhz w/ almost a gig of ram running Pro Tools Mix Plus, and always making PT's work hard??

if 400mhz isn't enough, is there some way to 'easily' upgrade w/out buying a new computer?
Old 16th January 2003
  #8
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🎧 15 years
hey dynamike

re: speeding up your 'puter

go here

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/3dfxforums.html

Also theres a company called sonnet (not sure about spelling) which specialises in internal processor upgrades for all kinds of macs.

Bev
Old 18th January 2003
  #9
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🎧 15 years
I can confirm this.. sonnet Rocks!! However its still not like having a new Mac...quite.. buss speeds etc....

It'll make running OSX.2 amuch more pleasant experience though...

Al.
Old 18th January 2003
  #10
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🎧 15 years
I run OS X on slower Macs all the time. Its fine as long as you have lots of RAM. Which it sounds like you do.
Old 18th January 2003
  #11
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🎧 15 years
Paul,
Have you tried Reason or Ableton Live running on OSX on a G3 based Mac?

Or Cubase SX?

Al.
Old 18th January 2003
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Sort of - I ran the Live Demo on my iMac G3-400 in X before I bought it. Give me a little time. I'll try it again with the real version. Ask again if it forget.
Old 23rd January 2003
  #13
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🎧 15 years
i'm running jaguar on an imac/333. It is a bit sluggish at times but still very stable. I only have 384mb of RAM. It definitly runs quicker on faster macs but i dont think its any more stable.

iPod..... cant live without mine. I use it w. itunes in OSX and as a firewire drive for hauling aroung PT sessions in OS9. I have a little 5 gigger and really need the 20. MP3 conversion in iTunes isnt great. I would reccomend anything under a 224 rate.... but with a 20gb drive you can keep quite a few AIF files and a whole bunch of 320's
Old 31st January 2003
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There IS a PC-specific version of the iPod available, which leads me to believe that it will function as a firewire drive cross-platform, but will only run as an MP3 player for the platform you purchase it for.

On a side-note, I upgraded my G3/333 iMac to a G4/400 with a new logic board, but it doesn't run as fast as it could/should. I think this is primarily due to the fact that older iMacs don't have the graphics power to render all the OS X/Quartz graphics, and is susceptable to sudden freeze-ups. In OS 9 it flies, tho'. Something to keep in mind, YMMV.
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