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Old 23rd February 2021 | Show parent
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OFF TOPIC:

don't you hate it when you give someone a sincere compliment on their mustache ... and suddenly she's not your friend anymore ?

Happens to the best of us.
Old 24th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by martman22 ➡️
You can do an inplace upgrade after downloading the iso and not have to reinstall your apps and plugins.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...ade.html#step6

You can download the specific builds using this tool:

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

[Update]
I just completed my upgrade to version 1909 as I was having the authorization issues. Everything went well. Took about 15 minutes. We will see if it resolves those issues.
Interesting, so you went from Enterprise LTSC 2019 to Pro using this method?
Old 24th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27003
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I was on Pro Ver 7013. Not sure how it would work in your situation.
Old 25th February 2021
  #27004
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Arrow Important info about Cerise

After upgrading the product Cerise from a free product to a commercial one, the current authorization slots counter status will not reflect the number of computers authorized during the free period.
To get the computer authorization (s) counter displayed correctly simply re-authorize your computer(s) using the re-authorize function in the Aquarius application on the upgrade page.

In case the product doesn't work, use the Aquarius application uninstall function first, and then install again the product using the Aquarius application.

To contact the Acustica Audio support go to the ‘Support and Help-desk Section’ in your Acustica Audio account.
We do not provide support via social networks, public forums, Acustica Audio forums, or email accounts.
Old 25th February 2021 | Show parent
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Thank you acustica for great sounding plugins. However, I recently bought the newest version of the Sand suite, and the needle in the compressor is jumping around like crazy. It was not like this in the older (demo) version I had. Does anybody else get this?
Old 25th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27006
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Originally Posted by Are Sorknes ➡️
Thank you acustica for great sounding plugins. However, I recently bought the newest version of the Sand suite, and the needle in the compressor is jumping around like crazy. It was not like this in the older (demo) version I had. Does anybody else get this?
Try reinstalling the Sand3 commercial version always using Aquarius (uninstall and then install it again), that usually solves most of the issues. If the problem persists, please contact our support. Make sure you are not using the trial, in that case, if no longer needed, uninstall/delete it.
Old 25th February 2021
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Sienna. Room modelling? Is it a combined product of specialised headphones and software?
Old 25th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27008
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Originally Posted by V4nger ➡️
Sienna. Room modelling? Is it a combined product of specialised headphones and software?
I read an article on FB about all the different headphones they had calibrated and how time consuming that was. So my guess is that it is just software.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Avgatzeblouz ➡️
OK, I had an issue very similar to yours on the same Windows version, if the build has not changed since. Here is an edited copy/paste of a post of mine to help someone else a few weeks back (in his case the issue was not the same as mine).

Starting in windows 10 1909, Microsoft allowed more threads to be accessible to softwares, including our DAWs. https://ask.audio/articles/this-wind...ns-in-your-daw
The AA plugins need some "space" in threads to authorize, and when you have maxed out the allowed number, some cannot even authorize. Bare in mind this is an OS limitation, as my RAM was far from being fulled, same with my cpu. So the only solution is to update to windows 10 post 1909 build.
That's what I did, I got a Pro license, installed a 1909 build, and all of a sudden, no more auth. issues.
The link above is pasted in broken, but here's the article:
https://ask.audio/articles/this-wind...ns-in-your-daw

And here's what I wrote about it:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windo...in-windows-10/

The fix is in Windows 10 1903. However, 1903 also has a kernel issue which increases audio latency, so I recommend 1909, or even better, 2004 or 20H2.


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Interesting, so you went from Enterprise LTSC 2019 to Pro using this method?
LTSC is just Enterprise, but with restrictions so that it can't be upgraded. When you want to upgrade, you have to purchase a new license. It's primarily intended for things like ATMs which tend to run the same OS, disconnected from the Internet, for a decade.

It's not massively smaller than a retail Pro image. In fact, it adds several things that generally aren't needed on a desktop PC or DAW.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Wind...siness/Compare

IMO, it's not even close to worth the cost or hassle to run it vs Pro. But that's just my opinion.

If the concern is that you don't want to get Windows Updates, then see here:
The supported ways to control updates in Windows 10

Pete
Old 26th February 2021
  #27010
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Arrow Aquarius 2.5.030 update available

With the latest Aquarius update (2.5.030) you can now change the previously fixed installation path for VST3 plugins

More info here: https://acusticaudio.freshdesk.com/s...ffect-plug-ins



Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27011
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Originally Posted by AcusticaCM ➡️
With the latest Aquarius update (2.5.030) you can now change the previously fixed installation path for VST3 plugins

More info here: https://acusticaudio.freshdesk.com/s...ffect-plug-ins



Looks interesting..Quick question.. I will now be able to move VST3 versions to another drive other than main?
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by ceemusic ➡️
Looks interesting..Quick question.. I will now be able to move VST3 versions to another drive other than main?
If by moving you mean following the procedure in the link to use a new custom path for the VST3 format, then yes.
If you meant manually moving or copying files manually, then no.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27013
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If by moving you mean following the procedure in the link to use a new custom path for the VST3 format, then yes.
If you meant manually moving or copying files manually, then no.
Thanks & yes..new installs per instruction.. am trying now & I can see they're installing into one of my internal SSD's..

The ability to move vst3 AA off my main c drive will be major!
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27014
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Originally Posted by ceemusic ➡️
Thanks & yes..new installs per instruction.. am trying now & I can see they're installing into one of my internal SSD's..

The ability to move vst3 AA off my main c drive will be major!
Yes! many hard drives will appreciate this new feature
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AcusticaCM ➡️
With the latest Aquarius update (2.5.030) you can now change the previously fixed installation path for VST3 plugins

More info here: https://acusticaudio.freshdesk.com/s...ffect-plug-ins



this is great news, a much requested feature.
with this considered, bulk-uninstalling would also be helpful.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Psychlist1972 ➡️
The link above is pasted in broken, but here's the article:
https://ask.audio/articles/this-wind...ns-in-your-daw

And here's what I wrote about it:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/windo...in-windows-10/

The fix is in Windows 10 1903. However, 1903 also has a kernel issue which increases audio latency, so I recommend 1909, or even better, 2004 or 20H2.




LTSC is just Enterprise, but with restrictions so that it can't be upgraded. When you want to upgrade, you have to purchase a new license. It's primarily intended for things like ATMs which tend to run the same OS, disconnected from the Internet, for a decade.

It's not massively smaller than a retail Pro image. In fact, it adds several things that generally aren't needed on a desktop PC or DAW.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Wind...siness/Compare

IMO, it's not even close to worth the cost or hassle to run it vs Pro. But that's just my opinion.

If the concern is that you don't want to get Windows Updates, then see here:
The supported ways to control updates in Windows 10

Pete
Yes, I linked that same article in my post. It was very informative, so thank you for writing it up. It really helped me understand the problem.

As for Enterprise vs. Pro, you would certainly know better than me. However, Pro has a lot of bloatware that I do not want, like Cortana and the Windows Store.

Still, weighed against being unable to use my plugins (which is the entire point of this PC), I have no choice but to reformat and install Pro so that I can use these expanded FLS slots.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AcusticaCM ➡️
With the latest Aquarius update (2.5.030) you can now change the previously fixed installation path for VST3 plugins

More info here: https://acusticaudio.freshdesk.com/s...ffect-plug-ins



Wasn't one of the major points behind VST3 to keep a consistent fixed installation folder path?

Raise your hand if VST 2.4 plugins are all over your hard drive and it's tough to track some of them down.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27018
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Originally Posted by valy ➡️
Yes, I linked that same article in my post. It was very informative, so thank you for writing it up. It really helped me understand the problem.

As for Enterprise vs. Pro, you would certainly know better than me. However, Pro has a lot of bloatware that I do not want, like Cortana and the Windows Store.

Still, weighed against being unable to use my plugins (which is the entire point of this PC), I have no choice but to reformat and install Pro so that I can use these expanded FLS slots.
I do suggest you keep the store. Current plan is to ship future MIDI stack updates through that mechanism. It makes it easy to ship things out of band. My MIDI SysEx utility is shipped through the store. If the concern is with store app updates, I show how to turn those off in the guide.

Cortana, you can easily turn off. I mention how in the guide. The process name still says cortana last time I checked, but it's really just regular search at that point.

Any other features/apps that fall under "bloatware" for you and that are in Pro but not Enterprise? I always like to understand where folks are coming from here, especially when they're willing to pay real money to avoid something.

Pete
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychlist1972 ➡️
I do suggest you keep the store. Current plan is to ship future MIDI stack updates through that mechanism. It makes it easy to ship things out of band. My MIDI SysEx utility is shipped through the store. If the concern is with store app updates, I show how to turn those off in the guide.

Cortana, you can easily turn off. I mention how in the guide. The process name still says cortana last time I checked, but it's really just regular search at that point.

Any other features/apps that fall under "bloatware" for you and that are in Pro but not Enterprise? I always like to understand where folks are coming from here, especially when they're willing to pay real money to avoid something.

Pete
Pete,

Has there been any more progress between Acustica/Microsoft/steinberg regarding the ongoing situation regarding having to force quit when using AA plugins?

M
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27020
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Originally Posted by doom64 ➡️
Wasn't one of the major points behind VST3 to keep a consistent fixed installation folder path?

Raise your hand if VST 2.4 plugins are all over your hard drive and it's tough to track some of them down.
Although flexibility is always nice, VST3 standard does specify that plugins need to be in a specific folder.

https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/e...ons-on-Windows

Not sure if all DAWs will let you specify other paths for VST3. If they all do, it's not a huge concern, and is likely outweighed by being able to free up disk space on a cramped drive.

I keep all my non VST3 plugins in C:\VSTPlugins. Not all installers let me do that, though. I appreciate those that do.

Pete
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by doom64 ➡️
Wasn't one of the major points behind VST3 to keep a consistent fixed installation folder path?

Raise your hand if VST 2.4 plugins are all over your hard drive and it's tough to track some of them down.
Thank you for saying it...

IMHO, a VST3 location option is not really what's needed, Steinberg made the location standard for a reason, lol. What is actually needed is for every AA plugin to use a central location where all the different VST2, VST3, AAX, and AU versions use the same N2V files. That would allow a user to install whatever different plugin types into the proper locations, but only have to download the massive N2V files ONCE, and every plugin type then uses that set location for file storage. It's wild that today a user must download the same N2V files for every different plugin type they install.

Nebula does it..... and I have absolutely zero idea who's brilliant idea it was to stop using a great method to centrally locate and share the massive sized files the Nebula technology requires.

Another fine example of 2 steps forward, 3 steps back.

As always to each their own.
Old 26th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by norbury brook ➡️
Pete,

Has there been any more progress between Acustica/Microsoft/steinberg regarding the ongoing situation regarding having to force quit when using AA plugins?

M
There has not, sorry.

Last info I have from Steinberg is that the main thread is blocked by the plugin when unloading. But Steinberg was not able to get a solid repro. That information came from a submitted trace.

Thanks for the reminder. I've pinged them again to see if they were ever able to get this to repro on-demand. Without a repro on-demand, I won't be able to get anyone to look at it, as there will be no way for them to tell when it's fixed.

Pete
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Psychlist1972 ➡️
Any other features/apps that fall under "bloatware" for you and that are in Pro but not Enterprise? I always like to understand where folks are coming from here, especially when they're willing to pay real money to avoid something.

Pete
Microsoft Edge? Lol that's not really a deal-breaker, although I don't need it.

Honestly, the main draw of LTSC was precisely that I NEVER have to worry about updates, and I don't have to jump through any hoops to prevent Windows from inadvertently ****ing up my production machine, which has happened on numerous occasions.

And if it wasn't for this LFS slot upgrade, I would have been content to keep using it.

Ultimately, I should be able to get Pro set up more or less like I have LTSC now. It will cost me a good bit of time, but it's worth it in the long run because otherwise I don't even have total recall in a digital DAW (with AA plugins). And it's no one's fault, because as you describe in your article, this is a problem that could not have really been foreseen back in the XP days due to hardware limitations.

Ideally, Microsoft would let us choose whether we want all these additional features at install -- then I wouldn't have been tempted to even use LTSC. But that's another conversation altogether.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doom64 ➡️
Wasn't one of the major points behind VST3 to keep a consistent fixed installation folder path?

Raise your hand if VST 2.4 plugins are all over your hard drive and it's tough to track some of them down.
More DAWs now allow custom paths for VST3, and it was a feature highly requested by our users since due to lack of space they resorted to methods not officially supported (such as symlink) which sometimes causes problems.
Obviously, you can still leave the default path if you want.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Psychlist1972 ➡️
Although flexibility is always nice, VST3 standard does specify that plugins need to be in a specific folder.

https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/e...ons-on-Windows

Not sure if all DAWs will let you specify other paths for VST3. If they all do, it's not a huge concern, and is likely outweighed by being able to free up disk space on a cramped drive.

I keep all my non VST3 plugins in C:\VSTPlugins. Not all installers let me do that, though. I appreciate those that do.

Pete

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcusticaCM ➡️
More DAWs now allow custom paths for VST3, and it was a feature highly requested by our users since due to lack of space they resorted to methods not officially supported (such as symlink) which sometimes causes problems.
Obviously, you can still leave the default path if you want.

One of the worst things to say about Windows per se
is the fact of not welcoming and encourage elucidated users.

The vst3 issue can be solved by placing a Windows system link to any desired partition.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Just want to chime in and say this change is welcome! I've been using symbolic links cause my system drive is a small SSD and I can't have everything on there! People like me appreciate this!!
Old 27th February 2021
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Yes, this is an excellent update to be able to install VST3 to a different drive. Thank you! I think it is the VST3 standard that got this wrong.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
  #27028
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Yes! many hard drives will appreciate this new feature
Ah, this isn't doing what I thought it would. It's dependent on the daw so it's like using my regular link setup.

I'm still hoping for N2V sharing of vst2 / 3 & backward compatibility to cut down on install size or confusion & issues when revisiting older projects.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Will The Weirdo ➡️
Thank you for saying it...

IMHO, a VST3 location option is not really what's needed, Steinberg made the location standard for a reason, lol. What is actually needed is for every AA plugin to use a central location where all the different VST2, VST3, AAX, and AU versions use the same N2V files. That would allow a user to install whatever different plugin types into the proper locations, but only have to download the massive N2V files ONCE, and every plugin type then uses that set location for file storage. It's wild that today a user must download the same N2V files for every different plugin type they install.

Nebula does it..... and I have absolutely zero idea who's brilliant idea it was to stop using a great method to centrally locate and share the massive sized files the Nebula technology requires.

Another fine example of 2 steps forward, 3 steps back.

As always to each their own.
Eliminate the staging folder altogether along with different N2V sets?

Agreed. I wonder if it is tied to the anti-piracy measures though?


Quote:
Originally Posted by AcusticaCM ➡️
More DAWs now allow custom paths for VST3, and it was a feature highly requested by our users since due to lack of space they resorted to methods not officially supported (such as symlink) which sometimes causes problems.
Obviously, you can still leave the default path if you want.
As long as the default path is kept the VST3 standard, then that's fine. I definitely understand the frustration of running out of system storage! Thankfully, the price of a 2 TB SSD is now under what the price of a 500 GB SSD was back in 2015.
Old 27th February 2021 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by omkar ➡️
One of the worst things to say about Windows per se
is the fact of not welcoming and encourage elucidated users.

The vst3 issue can be solved by placing a Windows system link to any desired partition.
I think you mean "educated users" or maybe "elucidated options".

If by "system link" you mean symlinks, that was brought up by others as not supported.

If you mean custom mount points (like mounting a new drive in c:\Program Files\Common Files\Steinberg\vst3 or whatever) then that's cool. They are super useful, but it can be a challenge to make sure everyone doing it is aware that it is a separate drive, despite the path.

Docs on how to do that:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ath-to-a-drive

But it's not really a Windows problem (it's just as much of a project on other operating systems). But no one should expect musicians to also be sysadmins, and mounting new drives in different ways isn't really a typical end-user task.

Pete
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