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Old 12th June 2006
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Iranian/Persian instrument samples..?

I'm looking for samples from Persian instruments,
like Setar, Daf, Tar, Kamancheh, Tombak, Santur etcetc.

It's somehow difficult to find good stuff of these.

I know the library Campbell's Origins has few, but that seems about it.

Anyone knows of another site/ title with persian instruments samples?


Much obliged!
Old 12th June 2006
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A fellow Gearslut, based in Germany I belive, just completed the Iranian world cup anthem! Pehaps he has some samples he can trade with you.
Old 12th June 2006
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Good to see more people dealing with arabic/persian music on this board


Quote:
Originally Posted by Marbarbaar
I'm looking for samples from Persian instruments,
like Setar, Daf, Tar, Kamancheh, Tombak, Santur etcetc.

It's somehow difficult to find good stuff of these.

It is in fact VERY difficult, to find good samples for Oriental Stuff...

Most Libraries I checked had lots of phrases and "ready to go" styles, but that's not something I'm looking for, so I cannot recommend anything to look for, sorry!

Since Tuning is crucial, I cannot imagine a (workeable) collection of those instruments, I usually go with musicians.

What I _can_ recommend is the "Darbuka" virtual Percussion Ensemble by Wizoo??


Good luck on your search, and please post if you dig something useful for you on your quest

It might be worth to look for .sf2 and .gig - files on the net....



Cheers, Niko
Old 12th June 2006 | Show parent
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silk road by sonic implants is pretty cool...

http://www.sonicimplants.com/GnReviewsSilkRoad1.htm

as is big fish audio Roots of the middle east and north africa...(although its basically perc based)

http://www.loopwise.com/shop/product...ducts_id=54738
Old 12th June 2006 | Show parent
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funkynuts - do you own "silk road"? i was thinking about buying but it looked more like loops than actual instruments. seemed a bit sketch for the price without being able to try. i'd rather just sample vinyl and cd's for way cheaper.


electric
Old 12th June 2006 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pan
Good to see more people dealing with arabic/persian music on this board





It is in fact VERY difficult, to find good samples for Oriental Stuff...

Most Libraries I checked had lots of phrases and "ready to go" styles, but that's not something I'm looking for, so I cannot recommend anything to look for, sorry!

Since Tuning is crucial, I cannot imagine a (workeable) collection of those instruments, I usually go with musicians.

What I _can_ recommend is the "Darbuka" virtual Percussion Ensemble by Wizoo??


Good luck on your search, and please post if you dig something useful for you on your quest

It might be worth to look for .sf2 and .gig - files on the net....



Cheers, Niko

Yes, I was indeed thinking someone might have posted some simple patches somewhere.. I'll post it if I find something.

It is indeed disappointing, most tuned instruments are "authentically" tuned when looped, but seperate samples suddenly go western tuning on you!

I wouldn't even mind having a lot of phrases and loops, but they also are very scarce.
And the seperate samples are terrible, who is interested in western tuned persian instruments anyway!!?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by electric
funkynuts - do you own "silk road"? i was thinking about buying but it looked more like loops than actual instruments. seemed a bit sketch for the price without being able to try. i'd rather just sample vinyl and cd's for way cheaper.


electric

Silk road, although cool now & then, has the exact problems stated above.

Plus; barely any samples!

turkisch & arabian instruments are easier to find, like the darbuka etc. there's more of those on Silk Road I believe
Old 12th June 2006 | Show parent
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swarshala has decent daff, darabouka/doumbek, and finger cymbal samples, as well as a whole slew of pretty solid indian stuff--the dholki and pakhwaj samples are especially good. the string samples are simple but OK; the winds are horrible.
Old 13th June 2006 | Show parent
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Hi MArbarbaar

I am in a network with some GREAT ( I mean OURSTANDINGLY SKILLED & INSPIRED ) Persian musicians ...
Yes , Kamanche, Daf, Darbouk, Santurplayers, the singing & Nay ...

Nothing beats the real thing!

So PM me, if interested .. to hear some samples check
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ic&v=glance&n=

RA from East West does have a very nice SAntoor as well as some percussion and other great world-sounds .. very playable .. they also implemented the different strokes & grace-notes and trillers etc .. check that out too if that is what you need ..
Again :
Nothing beats the real thing !
Old 14th June 2006 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDM
Hi MArbarbaar

I am in a network with some GREAT ( I mean OURSTANDINGLY SKILLED & INSPIRED ) Persian musicians ...
Yes , Kamanche, Daf, Darbouk, Santurplayers, the singing & Nay ...

Nothing beats the real thing!

So PM me, if interested .. to hear some samples check
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ic&v=glance&n=

RA from East West does have a very nice SAntoor as well as some percussion and other great world-sounds .. very playable .. they also implemented the different strokes & grace-notes and trillers etc .. check that out too if that is what you need ..
Again :
Nothing beats the real thing !

Way cool! Speak 2 you soon!


Anyone else may still comment of course if you know something.

I already tried looking for some free stuffs (soundfonts etc), I found several cool things but noone of them Persian ;-)
So I think the net is ruled out on this one.
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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I am Persian, I live in NYC and I play dombak and Daf. I also have a very nice santur. What kind of samples are you looking for exactly. Maybe I can pull something up for you.
Alternatively, if you're in the area, we can work something out at my studio and do a sample cd for exactly what you need.

PM me and we can talk.

Sasha
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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My father is a professional musician (persian) and plays all of those instruments. If you need anything done from my end, let me know.
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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NOTHING beats the real thing!!! good samples are hard to get....find a good player...i work in the middle east..depends on what you are doing! i found one cd but im abusing it,,,tell you the name after im done
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pan
Good to see more people dealing with arabic/persian music on this board





It is in fact VERY difficult, to find good samples for Oriental Stuff...

Most Libraries I checked had lots of phrases and "ready to go" styles, but that's not something I'm looking for, so I cannot recommend anything to look for, sorry!

Since Tuning is crucial, I cannot imagine a (workeable) collection of those instruments, I usually go with musicians.

What I _can_ recommend is the "Darbuka" virtual Percussion Ensemble by Wizoo??


Good luck on your search, and please post if you dig something useful for you on your quest

It might be worth to look for .sf2 and .gig - files on the net....



Cheers, Niko


i defintly backup the DARBUKA recomendation. is defintly the best.

also, ethnic worl from ZeroG

dont get orient world or silk roads those suck.


swarplug is really good but some samples are more for indian stuff.

i met a dude that makes pro iranian music in australia ("which is interesting")

he had a korg keyboard i never seened before. it was geard for the arabic/persian styles music. so it was loaded with cool patterns of rythms i couldnd even pronounce and where awsome. he also loaded samples catriges also.
other things included a fast acces to samplekey tunning , so he could tune down a quarter of the mayor seventh of the scale he was playing at the moment to give that distint middle eastern sound.
of course when i tried to sample the rythms and multipatches my PC machine didnt want to work. damn
i totally forgot the model but didnt find it in the korg website.
the casing of the keyboard said something like middle eastern module or kyboard.
well i still like darbuka from Wizoo.

i have every ethnic library out there and i think its true, there should be more. and better!.
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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samples dont' cut it IMO. If you've got a good chain then a good musician will give you the best results.
Old 21st June 2006 | Show parent
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if you don't end up going down the live muso route, check out the group buy on Quantum Leap's 'RA' (soundsonline.com, I think)

This is a NI Kontakt Player based sample replay sound set, with a lot of Middle Eastern sounds, in addition to the shedload of stuff from around the globe. It's half price until 30th June.

I just picked up a copy, but it's too early days to give a thumbs up or down. I can say it 'sounds' great - well engineered (at Ocean Way, apparently) and fairly comprehensive. A mix of some 'ready-to-go' phrases and a huge number of multi samples
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzy Alz
samples dont' cut it IMO. If you've got a good chain then a good musician will give you the best results.

I do agree as well.
Old 28th July 2014
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Check this out:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...y-through-iran
Old 28th July 2014
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DSK has these in their vsti pack:

1. Accordian
2. Air Gamelan
3. Ban-Di
4. Bata Drums
5. Celtic Harp
6. Chinese Percussion
7. Cumbus
8. Dobro
9. Dulcimer
10. East Indian
11. Erhu
12. Guzhen
13. Kanun
14. Koto
15. Luan
16. Mizmars
17. Ney Flute
18. Pan Flute
19. Percussion 1
20. Percussion 2
21. Pipa
22. Pipa tremolo
23. Sarod
24. Shakuhachi
25. Shamisen
26. Shenai
27. Shofars
28. Sitar
29. Tabla
30. Tamburas
31. Tampura
32. Tar
33. Temple Gong
34. Turkish Oud
35. Veena
36. Waterphone

HQ Instruments – Free VST plugins : DSK Music
Old 7th October 2020
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Are there any hardware drum machines out there that offer drums such as the Darbuka, etc.
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