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Old 31st July 2005
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I have been doing sound locally for about 3 years. The setup is anywhere form 3 to 6 bands, 1hr each. One of the things that I have noticed that I would like to improve is the sound of the various kick drums. I could easily install a trigger onto the kick when I am installing the microphone. Then I could mix the direct input with the triggered input to get a better sound out of it.
My question: is there a sampler or some other device that when triggered will let me adjust the sound that comes out of it? I do not need a unit that gives me every sound a drum set can make, (for $1800) just something simple for a kick drum.
any ideas?

Old 31st July 2005
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๐ŸŽง 15 years
have you tried the sub-kick....
i have two now....one for the b-15 and one for the kick
both purchased in the last three months............
they've been a big hit with a lot of experienced engineers....
there's not much else i know of for $249 that has made
so many people so excited - it works out to about $40 per engineer.....
in your case, with live sound and lots of bands, you might
get that down to $ 3 per drummer.......

be well

- jack
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๐ŸŽง 15 years
I've used Alesis D4's in the past, it's not a great unit, and the sounds kind of suck, but it does have some kick settings that work in a live setting:

Alesis D4

Just run your kick mic into it, then take the output to another channel of your board and mix it in.

I wouldn't do it on a recording (ok, I have and no one ever noticed), but live it's a super easy quick fix for under $200
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๐ŸŽง 15 years

I guess you may have already found your answer, but I do a lot of live sound and have worked with some real crappy systems in the past, so as a matter of interest, what is wrong with the kick sound you are getting with your current system?

Do you use a regular kick drum for each event?
Do you use a regular system for each event?
Is the system underpowered?
Is it a lack of low end "air" or a lack of chesty "thump" that is making you look towards triggers??

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George Necola's Avatar
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๐ŸŽง 15 years
if you are using something like cubase, nuendo, logic (sequencer) you can buy a drumtrigger (used one on ebay) just for converting the kicktrigger-signal into midi, than record that midi track.

go on and buy battery or battery 2 (VST-plugin) and you can have every kickdrumsound you can imagine.

for general improvement, use a multibandcompressor on the kickdrum.

the subkick thing:
you can build one on your own. get an old speaker (from your old hifi-system) with enough inches. build a wooden hang for the speaker to place it infront of your drumkick. then connect the output from the speakers with an XLR and go to the preamp. now youi have a subkick for 10 euros/dollars.

good luck
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