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How do SSL channel comps sound?
Old 22nd September 2002
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How do SSL channel comps sound?

Cool? Or sort of boring?

Anything that they're similar too?
Old 22nd September 2002
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Which one's? The individual channel's or the stereo buss comp?
Old 22nd September 2002
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Yeah individual channel comps. I know what the stereo one sounds like and was wondering if the channel comps were similar in any way.
Old 22nd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by planet red
Yeah individual channel comps. I know what the stereo one sounds like and was wondering if the channel comps were similar in any way.
The best word is probably 'chunky'. Definetly not transparent / clear. Its quite easy to hear the compression kicking in, especially when you give it transient stuff. It's not the greatest all-round comp i don't think but somehow it does complement the sound of the SSL mix bus quite well (this is all re: the G series by the way).

The downside is that there are only 2 attack times. I find that the fast one is often too fast and the slow one is often too slow. Also the automatic make-up gain can be a bit annoying. There also seems to be quite alot of distortion around the compression knee, which can be a good thing.

As to similarity with the stereo one, i would say they both have a definite charecter. Aside from that the stereo bus compressor is a whole lot better. Definetely linking 2 channel comps sounds nothing like the mix bus compressor.
Old 22nd September 2002
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I found them to be consistantly dreary on the B / E / G series ranges, but I don't know if they have had tweaks along the way to the latest versions available..


It was with a heavy heart that I ever pressed the dynamic's button on SSL's.


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Old 22nd September 2002
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agrees with jules

they suk ..
no they are nothing like the main bus comp which is
fun
Old 22nd September 2002
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must be why no one racks them up like neve
Old 23rd September 2002
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I wouldn't mind having a few channels of them around. I like them on drums at times. At least the G series comps. I think they sound a bit similar to a dbx 160. I think someone told me it's the same basic circuit and VCA.
Old 23rd September 2002
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I was told the same circuit as a DBX 165. But i think iread it on the internet so it must be true.
Old 23rd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
I wouldn't mind having a few channels of them around. I like them on drums at times. At least the G series comps. I think they sound a bit similar to a dbx 160. I think someone told me it's the same basic circuit and VCA.
I was told the same thing... perhaps the same source? I agree, they (G series) do have a similar kind of quality to the 160 but I have a pair of 160x's that are a helluva lot more useful. Although on occasion I could get the SSL 'chan comp' to do things I liked, for the most part they just seemed to get in the way and or make things small.

One thing I did love to do was steal the quad comp to track through... in small doses that thing's tre cool!
Old 23rd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by nick
The downside is that there are only 2 attack times. I find that the fast one is often too fast and the slow one is often too slow. Also the automatic make-up gain can be a bit annoying.
I agree with Nick's comments.

Yet, I love the channel comps (on the J)...though I don't have a lotta love for the quad comp and rarely use it anymore.

The J channel comps have a lot of character (you hear them) and they bring out the knock and pop in things. They grab and bark pretty well and I enjoy them. I wouldn't have any problem with doing a mix using only the dynamics and EQs on the J series (OK, I'd miss having a couple 1176s).
Old 23rd September 2002
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Anyone know the history of the channel compressors from the start (I've used a B series SSL!) to the present day K range?

Have they changed much...?

Are we all talking about the same thing?

Or not....?

I wonder....

Old 23rd September 2002
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I think they sound great on drums(that is the sound of pop I guess). Very similar to the DBX 165(which worked on somethings not on others). The racked channels sound way clearer and cleaner, but that goes as well for the 2 buss comp. Not all of the circuitrty in the middle.
Old 24th September 2002
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Fletcher said the same thing at one point, that the rackmount SSL channels sound way better then the same circuits in the console. I looked into the price of one at the last AES show and almost fell over. That's a lotta tacos.
Old 24th September 2002
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well, i just finished a mix on a 9000j...and just like what happened so many times before, my clients and myself just love the tone on the final mix from the ssl. it's a r'n'b song and i have been doing this type of music quite a lot recently. it always mix on either an ssl or pro tools mix. the songs mixed on the ssl just sound so much better...more solid stereo image, better low end response, more detail and clarity, etc. i love pro tools...and use it everyday. but when it comes down to mixing, i still prefer a 9000j even if i have to stick with the onboard eq and comp. i have no problem whatsoever on the comp and the eq on the ssl.

my dream studio...a 96ch. ssl 9000k with full blown pt hd rig working as a recorder and editor.
Old 24th September 2002
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my dream studio...a 96ch. ssl 9000k with full blown pt hd rig working as a recorder and editor.

Well if you feel like a holiday come to Melbourne Australia....

SingSing studios has just installed a brandnew 72ch K series with 48 i/o PTHD3 and surround Quested and outboard.. dont know howmuch yet but prolly around $2500 Australian ( $1250 U.S) a day...

I am gona go and have a sniff on it next week hopefully... may post some pics for everyone to see too...

PEACE
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Old 24th September 2002
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I too am dying to find out how it compares to a 4000 e/g cos this si the 1st 9000 of any sort to be installed in Australia.

Will let you know once i have been in there...

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 24th September 2002
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"my dream studio...a 96ch. ssl 9000k with full blown pt hd rig working as a recorder and editor."
It actually exist in Paris.it's called Mega(96ch 9k 64outputs PT).I just mixed in it and the 9k is killer. .Same as Noiz,I'm a Pro Tools guy,I have my own studio ,but I prefer to mix on a 9j,9k or Axiom with the Pro Tools as tape machine/Editor.(a bit OT here I confused the thread with "If I decide..96k." thread)
Old 25th September 2002
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Not that it matters in my book, but I don't believe Mega has upgraded to PT HD.

What project did you mix? I just spoke to Thierry Rogen an hour ago.

Jon
Old 25th September 2002
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I mixed SAYA's new Single (Rn'B)and I will be mixing the album soon . I don't know of important Studios that have turned to HD .Too many plug ins not available .When you open on Mix a session you've worked on HD, the plug ins won't retain their settings,they will be reset to their default settings. I need to come and check your room by the way ,I worked a lot on that SSL when it was in StudioC.
Old 25th September 2002
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jon
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Volodia,

I agree...Parisian studios are waiting for the plug-ins and client demand to materialize before upgrading. Except G-Tell, who I hear have a small HD system 'just in case' but which is apparently not getting used much.

Thierry and I are both pretty unexcited about investing in PT stuff. I think he uses the 3348HR for PT converters to avoid wasting money on more 888/24s. He's right. He puts his money where the client can see it...consoles, bigs, regular building/decor upgrades, etc.

You're welcome to visit...call or email to arrange a time around the sessions. Pierre Jaconelli and Peter Schwier are in the A for a few months right now producing a priority pop/rock album for Sony/Columbia. I'm doing overdubs for another Sony album in the B and mixes during off days in the A.

The console you knew from Mega has new P&G faders and new switches/channel cards, a new screen and new woodwork and buffers in front and on the side...it's still that familiar console though...Pete Schwier recognized it off the bat.
Old 3rd October 2002
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Hi Volodia,

Pierre said you dropped by this afternoon. I regret not seeing you...I had a small problem with my motorcycle today. Thanks for visiting and I hope to see you personally la prochaine fois.
Old 24th March 2006
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Personally like the SSL on the drum buss, along with the DBX 165 parallel compression on kik and snare.

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Wow old thread.... Cool.
Old 25th March 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by planet red
Cool? Or sort of boring?

Anything that they're similar too?

yeah they sound just like 160s to me honestly. very similar sound i like the ssl comps. the pres are quite boring but useful i suppose. the eq is fine not mind blowing, but a g+ is always great to work on.
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