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Old 28th September 2011 | Show parent
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I just find them
aggresively boring.
Thus my extreme dislike for them
Old 29th September 2011 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by rob S ➑️
I just find them
aggresively boring.
Thus my extreme dislike for them
I'd have to agree there... I gave it the 'one more chance' I spoke of earlier... to be fair it was better than I remembered in terms of pre & EQ, but the compressor is just completely useless to me.
Old 29th September 2011
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I struggled with settings on my Avalon 737 for years until I finally figured it out. In the end, it really helped me improve my recordings! When I sold it and put the money towards my Great River MP2-NV and Universal Audio 6176...
Old 28th November 2011 | Show parent
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not a fan of the 737. I have 2. the're cause the look "cool" For vocals im old school 1073 most of the time.
Old 30th November 2011 | Show parent
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I AM a fan. I have 2.
Old 24th January 2013
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hey guys .....im using a mbox 3 pro with a SE gemini 2 mic(large diaphram tube condenssor) into a imac i want to make my sound Better do you think an avalon will do justice ??? im doing mostly pop/ hip hop/ r&b /reggaton vocals... no instruments!! will an avalon 737 be any use and my comp doesnt like when i use to much plug-ins so keep that in mind as well even when i increase the buffer size sometimes it can be a pain
Old 24th January 2013 | Show parent
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hey guys .....im using a mbox 3 pro with a SE gemini 2 mic(large diaphram tube condenssor) into a imac i want to make my sound Better do you think an avalon will do justice ??? im doing mostly pop/ hip hop/ r&b /reggaton vocals... no instruments!! will an avalon 737 be any use and my comp doesnt like when i use to much plug-ins so keep that in mind as well even when i increase the buffer size sometimes it can be a pain
Get a Neve style mic instead. Great River, Bae etc. The 737 is junk.
Old 24th January 2013
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Lol @ everyone bashing the 737 on here.. sure, you can get the pendulum, summit or millenia for another $1k

Anyway the Avalon 737 sounds killer on bass!

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Old 24th January 2013
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Damn this thread was started in 2002! Would love to go back to 2002! Jules you got a time machine?
Old 25th January 2013
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The 737 is a nice Pre/Comp, I'm convinced if you were unable to get a good sound out if it you don't know how to use it (and its not that complicated). Saying you prefer a neve sound is 1 thing, saying a 737 is "junk" tells me you're not very good at engineering.
Old 25th January 2013 | Show parent
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The 737 is a nice Pre/Comp, I'm convinced if you were unable to get a good sound out if it you don't know how to use it (and its not that complicated). Saying you prefer a neve sound is 1 thing, saying a 737 is "junk" tells me you're not very good at engineering.
Harsh, but pretty much correct. I understand many people dislike, even hate, the 737 but it's pretty damned easy to get useful results out of! I find it simple to the point of simplistic. Preamp gain and output. More Pre less output = overdrive, Less pro more output = clean. Just like a guitar amp. The comp and EQ can be switched around and are fully functional even if clinically boring.
Old 25th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Studio507 ➑️
The 737 is a nice Pre/Comp, I'm convinced if you were unable to get a good sound out if it you don't know how to use it (and its not that complicated). Saying you prefer a neve sound is 1 thing, saying a 737 is "junk" tells me you're not very good at engineering.
+2

Yes, it's been established, ad nauseum, how disliked (overall) this unit is here on GS, and yes, there can often be better choices, but to say it's "junk" just perpetuates the hubris nonsense, most likely spawned from this site about the 737sp. Junk? lol..I own one. Countless "hits" have been recorded with 737's all over the globe but so what, right?

I also used an STT-1 for several years and for all the complaints about the 737's Comp, the STT-1 is just as worthy of criticism and harsh remarks, but for different reasons. It's grabby as F^&* and needs to be arm wrestled way more than need be. I also found the SS mode of the STT-1 to be more or less not worth it, compared to VT mode. Slightly better EQ than the 737, but in the end, short of a more expansive feature set, not really "better" than the 737

Haven't used my 737 for years because it's in storage with a number of other items, but I used it daily and was very happy with the results and while I'll most likely sell it to make way for other 500 series units I need, when I get it back in here, I'm sure It'll get some play before it goes on the market. But maybe I'll just keep it...
Old 25th January 2013 | Show parent
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The funny thing is they say the same thing about a U87 yet a U87 sounds really good in a 737!
Old 25th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by skinnypete ➑️
Lol @ everyone bashing the 737 on here.. sure, you can get the pendulum, summit or millenia for another $1k

Anyway the Avalon 737 sounds killer on bass!

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Sounds great on it's own, never liked it in the mix, just does not have the punch or cut threw the mix, to soft, the AD2022 is a million times better than the 737 using DI.
Old 25th January 2013
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To buy or not to buy, for me, would depend on the price... if you can get an amazing deal i've seen them go as low as $1200. I would grab that in a heartbeat. Even if you have to send it in to Avalon for repair. I've never paid more than $80. Mine has even been DROPPED and it still worked like a charm for years. Yes, It's over built!

It has a sweet spot.

I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular, but most people that I have personally known to generally dislike it just really didn't know how to effectively get around it. Turn it on and if it isn't immediate bliss move on.

There is a lot of gear mentioned around hear that people bag on that I have used and liked. Move the mic, change the mic, more input less output or the other way around.

If anything, in my world, i've never heard anyone talk about it's color.. people complain that it's too clean. That's been my only complaint. Not even a complaint, it's just hard to color if you need color. Get something else..

Right now they aren't "cool/trendy". So if you were ever going to get one now would be a good time.

If you find a better deal on something else, get something else. I have a good bit of hi-end pres. There are some I would keep before the 737 and some I would get rid of before the 737. Price always plays a part.
Old 25th January 2013 | Show parent
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The funny thing is they say the same thing about a U87 yet a U87 sounds really good in a 737!
To me it doesn't. I'd rather use another pre with a u87.
Old 26th January 2013
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To me it doesn't. I'd rather use another pre with a u87.
I'd rather use another pre with all of the other microphones as well.
Old 26th January 2013 | Show parent
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To me it doesn't. I'd rather use another pre with a u87.
Sure the U87 can sound 'better' with other pres such as V72 or GML but I admit I also thought the V737 is matching quite ok with the good old U87.. at least for modern pop. Certainly better than M149. The funny thing is of course that the only no1 I've been involved with (not that I do that much pop) was with M149 thru V737 on lvox. There you go... Why didn't the apocalypse happen? Hahahahaha
Old 26th January 2013 | Show parent
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And to me the equalizer section is definitely usable.. the hpf being one of the best found on 'channel strips'. The compressor I've never used/liked but would love to give it a go with the modded comp one of these days. What about the black faced against the silver ones??? Heheh... just joking
Old 26th January 2013
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Sounds great on it's own, never liked it in the mix, just does not have the punch or cut threw the mix, to soft, the AD2022 is a million times better than the 737 using DI.
I think the 737 is like the Gearslutz version of "that one cheerleader" at your highschool. She's actually pretty cute, but EVERYONE'S banged her, so she's basically chopped liver.

Seriously though, if I hired an engineer and he told me he couldn't get a passable sound for tracking electric bass with the 737, I would be a little worried.

Now if there was a V72 or 1073 sitting right there, and he made a suggestion, that's a different story.

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Old 26th January 2013 | Show parent
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Damn this thread was started in 2002! Would love to go back to 2002! Jules you got a time machine?
I got one!

PM me your credit card/ bank account #s and I'll set you back about 10 years.
Old 26th January 2013 | Show parent
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One thing for sure, back when I was buying and selling a few many many years ago, they were selling for a average of 1500, things have not changed, they are still around that.
Old 26th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Studio507 ➑️
The 737 is a nice Pre/Comp, I'm convinced if you were unable to get a good sound out if it you don't know how to use it (and its not that complicated). Saying you prefer a neve sound is 1 thing, saying a 737 is "junk" tells me you're not very good at engineering.
Old 27th January 2013 | Show parent
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737, 1073+LA2A, or Focusrite ISA, or Red+1176 behind a C800G, U87, C414 are standards. Why knock the 737. It's solid.

Rob G..
Old 28th January 2013 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by antti ➑️
Sure the U87 can sound 'better' with other pres such as V72 or GML but I admit I also thought the V737 is matching quite ok with the good old U87.. at least for modern pop.
Maybe. I tracked a rapper tonight using the standard U87ai through an Avalon 737sp. Sounded perfect. He was thrilled.

Nothing else matters.
Old 31st January 2013
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okay anything specific people other than the name of the brand like wat model sch and sch for vocals se gemini 2>>????>>>mbox 3 pro >>>mac pro i need a eq/compressor pre amp anything that will help ??? like i f i go with a great river prodct wich one wold fit in to boost my sond to better quality!!
Old 31st January 2013
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my bdget is 1,300.00 ......maybe 2,000 if i feel the product is going to be dead drop amazing!
Old 31st January 2013
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i jst want to get cose to that top notch sound for hip hop vocals the avalon sound good but a little muffled well from the artist i heard used it never personaly used it my self but i know people who have and it was good quality but it wasnt that multi million dollar vocal im looking for
Old 31st January 2013
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my bdget is 1,300.00 ......maybe 2,000 if i feel the product is going to be dead drop amazing!
Vintech x73i is around $1400. My engineer friends like that brand.

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Old 1st February 2013
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Depends on the application. I had one. It's great if you dont want to buy expensive mics. It will make a decent mic sound great. Bass is badass!

so what does it sound like?
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