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Old 20th June 2006 | Show parent
  #31
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I do realize their are better sounding higher end pre's out thier and a lot depends on your budget, the price I got these units for was unfreak'in believable I could'nt pass up....

I am in the market for 4 more high end pre's.
Old 22nd June 2006 | Show parent
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Count me among the 737 fans. I have the 737, Manley VoxBox, ISA 220, and UA 6176, and each has its time and place. I'm back and forth between the 737 and the VoxBox for vocals and acoustic guit. I agree that the 737 isn't useful for much else.

I really like the 737 comp for vocals and acoustic guitar. The mid-eq side chain works great; I use both mid bands cranked hard for de-ess. The comp is transparent up to about -10db on the meter.

The high and low eq are passive. The high gives good air.
Lee
Old 22nd June 2006 | Show parent
  #33
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🎧 15 years
say you had the following 4 pieces and you had to record some rock vocals...

focusrite 430
avalon 737
royer 121
sm7

...what would you use?
Old 22nd June 2006 | Show parent
  #34
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🎧 15 years
We got 2 of them here in the studio.


they rock and they are great on many things.


I do find that these pre's stand out a lot from the other stuff... There's almost a shine or something that grabs my attention.

The DI's are pretty cool too... very different sounding



Eq's are cool too... I find there are certain freq's that ring quite well on the unit.. and others that don't. The 32K band is really awesome! Very airy.



Comp... well I'm not really into it but I haven't really tried it on every single thing yet.
Always used something else.




Jason
Old 25th June 2006 | Show parent
  #35
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It's a great combination with the 121 on guitar. Haven't tried a 121 on vocals though.
Old 26th June 2006 | Show parent
  #36
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I`m not sure why the 737 gets beat up so much. For the price, its one of the better sounding channel strips out there. Yes, the mic pre is not as colored as some but that makes it more useable for more application. The EQ is also very good and I disagree that it is best used to take away rather than add.

The comp. is the least useful but I have used it on the stereo bus with success and on vocals and acoustic guitar.

The DI is very good as well for bass.

So the box has its place and many uses. Good for some, bad for others.

What else is new?
Old 26th June 2006 | Show parent
  #37
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I hate the 737, but I own 2!!!!

To me you need one for clients, I dont get it but its a standard. I look at it like the U87. Sounds good on everything but never really great for much.
Old 26th June 2006 | Show parent
  #38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsnow
It's a great combination with the 121 on guitar. Haven't tried a 121 on vocals though.
I have found myself wishing for a bit more gain from the 737 with the 121 on quieter sources such as acoustic guitar.
Old 12th September 2009 | Show parent
  #39
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AValon 737

one of the most versatile pieces of gear ever made - i dont care what haters say -

if and only if you are familiar with compression and EQ you should have this unit -

i swear by the avalon 737 and i think every producer that calls himself should at least try the avalon before you say anything -
Old 12th September 2009 | Show parent
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one of the most versatile pieces of gear ever made - i dont care what haters say -

if and only if you are familiar with compression and EQ you should have this unit -

i swear by the avalon 737 and i think every producer that calls himself should at least try the avalon before you say anything -

Holy Thread Resurrection
Old 12th September 2009 | Show parent
  #41
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Originally Posted by shanabit ➡️
Holy Thread Resurrection
yaaa...LOL
the 2nd resurrection. originally from Sept 2002. (7 years old) Just shows you that Gearslutz has been around for I very long time and has a ton of great info in the older posts.

.wav audio session of the CL1B, 737sp, Distressor at https://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-...tech-cl1b.html

take a quick listen
Old 12th September 2009 | Show parent
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🎧 10 years
I used the 737 for a lot of things with mid rangy results, I expected more from out of a "high-end unit". I pretty much like the UA LA610

though I have to addmit that it´s an incredible look to the eye, I´d buy an image plate of it (don´t know exactly how it´s called)
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #43
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to all 737 users, PLEASE CHANGE the tubes. ( Siemens or Telefunken or Mullard..)

you will notice better changes
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel Sousa ➡️
to all 737 users, PLEASE CHANGE the tubes. ( Siemens or Telefunken or Mullard..)

you will notice better changes
+1. Mullards in mine, sounds nice (makes it quieter too).

-synthoid
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #45
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mine too,

know i must try siemens

The Best Sounding 6DJ8=ECC88 ever made are:
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6DJ8 Siemens West Germany 1960's (nothing beats this tube; accurate, open, focused, detailed, airy, tight bass)
6DJ8 Amperex Bugle Boy Holland "D" getter 1950's (superbly musical 6DJ8, nice articulate bass, 3D sound)
6DJ8 Telefunken West Germany 1960's (a little bass shy, but superbly smooth and listenable long term)
6DJ8 Amperex Bugle Boy Holland 1960's
6DJ8 Amperex Holland 1960's and Amperex Holland Globe Logo late 1960's - mid 1970's (some are branded Philips Miniwatt)
6DJ8 Mullard 1960's (smooth, good bass, the older versions are the best)
6DJ8 Mullard 1960's (either branded Mullard or Philips or Amperex Great Britain)
6DJ8 Sylvania late 1960's - mid 1970's (excellent sound for the money, best value)
6DJ8 GE USA 1960's - 1970's (good value)
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #46
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dude, you're spamming the forums.
-synthoid
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by synthoid ➡️
dude, you're spamming the forums.
-synthoid
Me thinks Gabriel needs a time out from posting. Littering the top pages with old threads just to tell people to buy tubes isn't cool or helpful.
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
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Me thinks Gabriel needs a time out from posting. Littering the top pages with old threads just to tell people to buy tubes isn't cool or helpful.
better to spend yer munny on my music...some of which was recorded with a 737 ..stock tubes tho..
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTC111 ➡️
Me thinks Gabriel needs a time out from posting. Littering the top pages with old threads just to tell people to buy tubes isn't cool or helpful.

i never used the word BUY, i said CHANGE,
it will be a good upgrade to a expensive gear.

i think is very very helpful.

you don't need to by mad !!!

peace
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel Sousa ➡️
i never used the word BUY, i said CHANGE,

You're missing the point entirely. This isn't about whether you said "buy" or "change." The criticism was about you bringing up old threads just to cut and paste the same thing you've posted in other threads.

Here's a suggestion... instead of cutting and pasting the same thing all over the place, start a thread of your own and put all your sage advice in one thread so folks don't have to hunt for it.
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #51
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dont forget de gearslutz rule, before creating a Thread do a search frist.

isnt nice/pratical to have 50 treads talking about the same thing
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel Sousa ➡️
dont forget de gearslutz rule, before creating a Thread do a search frist.

isnt nice/pratical to have 50 treads talking about the same thing
You're yankin' my chain, right?
Old 25th August 2010 | Show parent
  #53
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yeah, but i didnt created that all treads about avalon tubes
Old 26th August 2010 | Show parent
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... sold my 737 two years ago - just to get it back last year! Couldn't do without it. To "out" myself: it's due to that compressor, everybody seems to dislike. There is one thing that compressor definitively can't handle well: vocals.
BUT: give it a try on snare drums! really! it's on the slower side, I know. But exactly this gives me that big and thick punch, I've been allways looking for. I often find myself disappointed with the SSL buscom attack settings. 3ms is too fast, 10ms too slow. The 737 seems naturally to fit exactly in the middle. IMHO.
Really - give it a try! It's worth it! Sometimes it even can sound a bit like an 2254 on snaredrums!
Old 27th September 2011
  #55
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Holy Thread Resurrection part 3!

Ok, after reading this thread, I'm gonna give the 737 one more shot at recording vocals today...

I'm sure the pre is great, but I just can't get down with the comp - it's probably the most unusable hardware compressor I've come across to be honest. I have no faith in this unit whatsoever!

...I'll keep the 1176 warming up, just in case.
Old 27th September 2011
  #56
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The 737 is cool but it has a thin sound compared to the 1073 Neve pre amp. The 1073 is first choice for leading producers and has been recording hits for the last 40 years. It's great for rock to pop, hip-hop to rap, thrash to classical. Try it out! It's Jay-Z and Kanye's favorite.

www.mixxproduction.com
Old 27th September 2011
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Originally Posted by DMark ➡️
I do realize their are better sounding higher end pre's out thier and a lot depends on your budget, the price I got these units for was unfreak'in believable I could'nt pass up....

I am in the market for 4 more high end pre's.
Ditto!! (I got my 737sp and a U87ai BOTH for an unbeatable price: $2500....my friend was in some financial trouble :( / . The box works for me (vocals, bass, electric Gtr.)
Old 27th September 2011
  #58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel Sousa ➡️
to all 737 users, PLEASE CHANGE the tubes. ( Siemens or Telefunken or Mullard..)

you will notice better changes
Any specific model? (telefunken brand)
Old 27th September 2011 | Show parent
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I saw a Millennia STT-1 for sale on the second hand gear forum.
Old 27th September 2011 | Show parent
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to make it short: i don't like it, mediocore pre for it's price, lazy comp and not so usefull eq and a colour i don't like. But calling it trash is bull****. I have been forced to use it (the only other option was a TLaudio M4 pre and eq wich i like even less) for vocals and i managed to get good vocals out of it, but other channelstrips can do much better in my opinion for this price. To name one: Focusrite ISA430...

But others like it very much and make good recording with it. That is more worth than subjective reviews i think. So try to test one before you buy it, because it may be or not be your cup of tea...
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