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Old 19th September 2022 | Show parent
  #2041
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Originally Posted by hool15 ➡️
CARLOFF , i see you have the FEARN VT7 compressor , tell us something about it , compare it to other compressors .. how do you find the sound .. ? it`s pretty rare and expensive and i will probably never be able to listen to it !

Thanks
I have it over a year and have to say it is the most universal and the most favourite one compressor I own now. It always works. The most strange thing it works really for everything instead of I would want all button breathing madness on drums. The colour can be from very clean to Fairchildish. Always sounds bigger, on vocals doesn't sound spitty even with a big compression. My best piece. Much more used than anything I own.
Old 20th September 2022 | Show parent
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I have a couple of EQs:
Lawo w995/1 EQ pair, nice inductor based EQ from 70s
and
Gainlab Audio Empress, pultec style EQ.

I use a racked Studer 900-series limiter for "quick mastering" if needed.
...and sometimes Aphex 104 Exciter / BigBottom

Last edited by J0hanne5; 21st September 2022 at 12:45 PM..
Old 20th September 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Paul_G ➡️
That's my concern, I don't need any clean or dirtier I need different which so far is only the recall which I don't really need on my compressors.

I was interested in the 3 different sounds and how useful they were.

I'll borrow a demo and see maybe.....
If you're looking for different, in my humble opinion it's probably not going to be with the Bettermaker stuff. It's very good, but seems to be more about the recall. I have not used the mastering compressor, but I did own the Bettermaker 500 series pultec-clone and I found it to be quite modern/tight.

For different, Avedis has got the rights to Pye and is releasing a compressor in the $3500 range (granted no one has heard it, but if it's legit it will be different). Also, the chandler stuff is also very different, as far as stereo program compression goes. I personally am looking to try a pair of germaniums, but I owned a pair of LTD2 for years and they're a different voice. (if you don't already have a neve-typecomp)
Old 20th September 2022 | Show parent
  #2044
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Originally Posted by prismtheory ➡️
If you're looking for different, in my humble opinion it's probably not going to be with the Bettermaker stuff. It's very good, but seems to be more about the recall. I have not used the mastering compressor, but I did own the Bettermaker 500 series pultec-clone and I found it to be quite modern/tight.

For different, Avedis has got the rights to Pye and is releasing a compressor in the $3500 range (granted no one has heard it, but if it's legit it will be different). Also, the chandler stuff is also very different, as far as stereo program compression goes. I personally am looking to try a pair of germaniums, but I owned a pair of LTD2 for years and they're a different voice. (if you don't already have a neve-typecomp)
Thanks but I’ve had POM’s Pye for a while and it’s exactly like the original. I sold my OG after hearing them side by side. I have lots of Chandler stuff tube, Germanium and Zener. Wouldn’t work without it.
The Olympic 65 pre’s work wonders with Chandler.
I’m also putting a full recall mix rig together so that’s why I was inquiring into the BM comp as I love the Limiter and the EQ. I just wondered whether it had any cool tricks up it’s sleeve.
Old 21st September 2022 | Show parent
  #2045
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Originally Posted by J0hanne5 ➡️
I have a couple of EQs:
Lawo 955/1 EQ pair, nice inductor based EQ form 70s
and
Gainlab Audio Empress, pultec style EQ.

I use a racked Studer 900-series limiter for "quick mastering" if needed.
...and sometimes Aphex 104 Exciter / BigBottom
I miss my Lawo W995... selling them was just stupid...
Old 22nd September 2022 | Show parent
  #2046
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Originally Posted by Avantmidi ➡️
Not experiencing this with my WesAdio NGbus. Your millage may of course vary.
I didn’t love this one on the mix bus either. But as you wrote…ymmv.
Old 23rd September 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by J0hanne5 ➡️
I have a couple of EQs:
Lawo w995/1 EQ pair, nice inductor based EQ from 70s
and
Gainlab Audio Empress, pultec style EQ.

I use a racked Studer 900-series limiter for "quick mastering" if needed.
...and sometimes Aphex 104 Exciter / BigBottom
Always been intrigued by the Gainlab stuff, how do you like and use the Empress?
Old 23rd September 2022 | Show parent
  #2048
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Originally Posted by JSchlomo ➡️
Always been intrigued by the Gainlab stuff, how do you like and use the Empress?
I have used it for a few weeks, that is, for a couple of projects and some tests. I really like it so far! Looks/feels like a a solid high quality piece for me. I cannot say how it compares with a real pultec or any other clone but it sounds great as far as I hear... A lot of frequencies available, steps are small enough for mastering (for me at least), midband gives a lot more than H/L bands only and it overlaps with a highband. "Boost normal /boost shift" and "cut normal / cut shift" switches give even more options. I really like to use the boost shift for a low band. It cuts away some boominess. "Tube boost" works for some material but it's a bit too much for my taste. Maybe better for individual tracks or busses than a stereo track. Price is good for a dual mono made in EU tube EQ.
Old 23rd September 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by J0hanne5 ➡️
I have used it for a few weeks, that is, for a couple of projects and some tests. I really like it so far! Looks/feels like a a solid high quality piece for me. I cannot say how it compares with a real pultec or any other clone but it sounds great as far as I hear... A lot of frequencies available, steps are small enough for mastering (for me at least), midband gives a lot more than H/L bands only and it overlaps with a highband. "Boost normal /boost shift" and "cut normal / cut shift" switches give even more options. I really like to use the boost shift for a low band. It cuts away some boominess. "Tube boost" works for some material but it's a bit too much for my taste. Maybe better for individual tracks or busses than a stereo track. Price is good for a dual mono made in EU tube EQ.
Thanx a lot!
Old 23rd September 2022 | Show parent
  #2050
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Thanx a lot!
My pleasure!
A couple of points more

You can boost/cut a lot without making it sound bad. My latest work with Empress was a live show video cut with Zoom Q8 camera/recorder. I used the tube boost option and a lot of boosting at lows and middles to make it sound more "professionally processed audio"

It utilizes soviet tubes (?). No idea how to replace them if ever need to. I hope the company keeps up going in the future.
Old 23rd September 2022 | Show parent
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It utilizes soviet tubes (?). No idea how to replace them if ever need to. I hope the company keeps up going in the future.
If it's like the compressor the tube tubes are easily replaceable but it's a bit shady that no one mentions the tube in the eq anywhere. You'd have to take the lid off and google the tube's serial number to find out, but don't worry Russia has made enough tubes to last forever seeing as they have always used them for their military equipment across the USSR.
I'd be interested though if anyone knows. The IC is curious but still. They do a lot for a little money.
Old 4th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2052
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I have it over a year and have to say it is the most universal and the most favourite one compressor I own now. It always works. The most strange thing it works really for everything instead of I would want all button breathing madness on drums. The colour can be from very clean to Fairchildish. Always sounds bigger, on vocals doesn't sound spitty even with a big compression. My best piece. Much more used than anything I own.
Do you think it would pair well with a 2500 for faster material? I’ve been eyeing the vt7 for years.
Old 5th October 2022
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I’m usually very simple with my mixbus processing, but here’s my chain on a recent mix where I got a little more heavy-handed (in a good way - sounded awesome).

Phaedrus Phusion (set to Silicon Opamp) in M/S mode with mid and side sends sent to Spectra Sonics 502 EQ’s / into an IGS S-Type compressor and finally into a pair of Five Fish PEQ-503 EQ’s.

Anyway, that’s an intense chain for me who usually finds 1db of gain reduction on a compressor the perfect mix bus treatment.
Old 10th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2054
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I have JDK audio R22 and R24 and I am very happy with these.

Tom
Old 10th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2055
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Master bus

Dav BG 3 into Creamliner III
Old 11th October 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by vasylek ➡️
I have JDK audio R22 and R24 and I am very happy with these.

Tom
I have both units as well but never tried them on the mixbus. Are you using session recall or taking pics?
Old 11th October 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by e-are ➡️
I have both units as well but never tried them on the mixbus. Are you using session recall or taking pics?
No I just slightly operate with compressor threshold knob so the red led lights up rhythmically from time to time. This is best way to use this compressor as heavy compression does not work so well with it. And eq is rather the same on all tracks within one session. I usually slightly elevate 12 khz (about 1 db) which makes "expensive sounding" records. I record on Korg MR200. I also sum up with neve 8816 adding other compressors/eqs on drums, guitars, vocals. And R22 and R24 are on the sum.

T
Old 12th October 2022 | Show parent
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Does any of you had the chance to compare the Airfield Liminator to Fearn VT-7 soundwise ? Do you think they will fit together in one chain , VT-7 have Jensen transformers + six 6N1P tubes and two 6072A tubes.

Thanks !

Last edited by hool15; 13th October 2022 at 03:48 AM..
Old 13th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2059
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Originally Posted by hool15 ➡️
Does any of you had the chance to compare the Airfield Liminator to Fearn VT-7 soundwise ? Do you think they will fit together in one chain , VT-7 have Jensen transformers + six 6N1P tubes and two 6072A tubes.

Thanks !
I dont :( I have Elysia Xpressor which is fine but too fancy. Probably nice for electronic music while I do mostly rock. I have also WA BusComp which despide a large debate here taht it's not the "real thing" sounds very good; I use it on drum bus since three years. My newest acquisition is Zen Compressor. Very cool, a sculpting tool rather than regular compressor. Once again it's a fancy stuff not a workhorse. The bottom line is that R22 is a "workhorse" and it works pretty well if you don't push it too hard. It adds something laike magnetic tape valor to the sound.

(edit) sorry I did not read your post carefuly - I thought you wanted to compare R22 to VT-7 .
Old 13th October 2022 | Show parent
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Mix bus varies per project, but usually some variation of these:

TK-lizer > Pair of preamps (Daking/APA Juggernaut/Hamptone) > RND 542’s > API 2500 > Iron Age V2

Sometimes it’s just one thing, depending on how much recall is anticipated and how good tracking tones are.
Old 14th October 2022 | Show parent
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I have had a feeling that my SSL comp built around vintage E cards certainly increases the number of mixing job offers. Instantly better than reference demo mixes mixed all ITB by the artists, so I even feel it's a cheat.
Old 15th October 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by momomel ➡️
I have had a feeling that my SSL comp built around vintage E cards certainly increases the number of mixing job offers. Instantly better than reference demo mixes mixed all ITB by the artists, so I even feel it's a cheat.
Hello,
Do you mean, that you feel a major sound improvment by using your ssl hardware compressor, over the ssl plugins available in the market ??
By the way :
- is your ssl compressor , a clone ?
- What do you mean by ''vintage E cards''

Thanks for shring your experience
Regards
Sergio
Old 15th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2063
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Hello,
Do you mean, that you feel a major sound improvment by using your ssl hardware compressor, over the ssl plugins available in the market ??
By the way :
- is your ssl compressor , a clone ?
- What do you mean by ''vintage E cards''

Thanks for shring your experience
Regards
Sergio
My comp has 2 VCA cards taken out from an early SSL E console, plus 2 GSSL side chain cards and power supply. I don't know if I would call it a clone, because the signal path itself is an actual vintage SSL E console master bus, and surrounding circuit including psu is newly built.
Old 15th October 2022
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bae1073 dual -- TK Audio BC1 THD

pretty snappy
Old 16th October 2022 | Show parent
  #2065
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I added some Spectra 1964 C610's as the first link in my chain, doing peak limiting only. Very pleased.
Old 21st October 2022 | Show parent
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Hey everyone -

What’s a good stereo comp/limiter that would go well after my API 2500+, pultecs , ______, Burl conversion?
Old 21st October 2022 | Show parent
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Hey everyone -

What’s a good stereo comp/limiter that would go well after my API 2500+, pultecs , ______, Burl conversion?
Focusrite 230/330 its superb!

Manley Vari Mu/ TC Phoenix in the MU space

Depends on what you're doing and how much of a footprint you'd like the unit to impart.

Cheers
Wiggy
Old 21st October 2022 | Show parent
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Simplified things within the last year, Shadow Hills Equinox for Summing insert Dramastic Obsidian>Pultec Eqp500as>Avedis Trans Drive with Western Electric 111c transformers>Prism Titan A/D
Very tasty
Old 21st October 2022
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Having good results with the combo of Dramastic Obsidian (transformerless) > Foote MTB

increasingly I just leave the Obsidian at .3 attack and auto release and forget about it. it’s very invisible without the transformers but then the MTB offers a selection of transformers and color
Old 21st October 2022 | Show parent
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My current mix bus chain is a; DBox+ (for summing) > Wes Audio Dione > SSL Fusion > Prism Atlas.

I'm liking my results, but want to make sure I'm getting the best from the analog world before it's back in the DAW.

I don't have a strong engineering background , so was curious what levels are you aiming to hit your A to D at? Particularly for those not purposely clipping the A to D.

Thanks
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