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Old 3rd September 2013
  #301
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Interesting thread! I've gone through all the posts, and to the best of my ability, have tried to compile the results. A few interesting things:

1) API, Manley, A Designs, and Kush/UBK absolutely dominated. Not even close.

2) Most people who have a Manley unit, have more than one. So, if they have a MAssive Passive, odds are, they also have a Vari Mu (and vice versa).

3) Far greater variety in comps.

4) Far greater number of comp users vs EQ (252 vs 175).

So, here are the tallies!

COMPRESSORS

20 API 2500
13 Manley Vari-Mu
11 A Designs Nail
11 Smart C2
9 Cranesong STC-8
9 Dramastic Obsidian
9 Shadow Hills Mastering Comp
8 UBK Fatso
7 SSL
6 Thermionic Culture Phoenix*
5 Daking Fet II
5 Focusrite Red 3
5 Neve 33609
5 Pendulum OCL-2
5 SSL FX-G384
5 TK Audio BC1
4 Chandler TG 12413 ZenerLimiter
4 Drawmer 1968
4 Elysia Xpressor
4 Pendulum ES-8
4 Pendulum*PL-2
4 Roll Music RMS755
4 Smart C1
3 Fearn VT-7
3 Foote P3S
3 Regular John Master Buss Compressor
3 Portico 5043
3 Shadow Hills Dual Vandergraph
3 SSL-G Series Bus Compressor
3 Vertigo VSC-2
3 Waves L2
2 API 527
2 Dave Hill Designs Titan
2 DBX 160SL
2 EAR 660
2 Fairchild 670
2 JDK R22
2 NTP 179-470
2 Rockruepel Comp.One
2 ShadowHills Optograph
2 TubeTech smc-2b
2 Vintage Design CL1MK2
1 ADL 1500
1 ADL 670
1 Airfield Liminator 2
1 Alesis 3630
1 Analoguetube*comp*
1 Atomic Squeezebox
1 BAE 10DC
1 Cartec
1 Chandler Germanium comps
1 Chandler LTD
1 Chandler TG 1
1 Chandler TG comp?
1 Daking Fet III
1 DBX 160xl
1 DBX 160xt
1 DBX 162
1 DBX 165A
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Drawmer Mk1?
1 Drawmer S3 Multiband Compressor
1 Eisen LilPEQ
1 Elysia Alpha
1 Focusrite Blue Comp V.1
1 Foote P3500S
1 Foote P4 DMS
1 GML 8900
1 GSSL
1 Handcrafted Labs Solution 2
1 JCF Lever
1 Looptrotter Monster
1 Mixbuzz500
1 Requisite L2M
1 Retro 176
1 Old World Audio U33
1 Safe Sound Dynamics Toolbox
1 Serpent SB4000
1 Serpent SB4001
1 SSL 4k Buss comp
1 SSL 9000J Buss Compressor
1 SSL X-rack G-Comp
1 Telefunken U373 BK
1 TFPro P8 "Edward the Compressor"
1 TFPro P38EX*
1 UTA Unfairchild
1 Vintech 609

EQ

23 A Designs Hammer
19 Kush Clariphonic
17 API 5500
17 Manley Massive Passive
7 Pultecs
7 Retro 2A3
5 Dangerous Bax EQ
4 A Designs EM-EQ2
4 A Designs EM-PEQ
4 GML 8200
4 Summit EQP200A
3 Amtec PEQ
3 Chandler TG 12345 Curvebender*
3 Cranesong IBIS
3 GR-EQ2NV
2 API 550
2 Avalon AD 2055
2 Avedis E27
2 Bettermaker EQ232p
2 Elysia Museq
2 Great River Mastering EQ
2 Gyraf G14
2 Harrison
2 Millennia NSEQ2
2 Sontec 250
2 Tubetech PE1C
1 AMEK Medici
1 BLA AM/CHA1 EQ
1 Buzz Audio REQ 2.2
1 Celleo Audio Palette EQ
1 CharterOak PEQ-1
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Elysia Xfilter
1 EQP1S5
1 Focusrite ISA220 eqs
1 JDK R24
1 JLM PEQ 500
1 Klark Teknik DN 332
1 LAZ EQN
1 Lindell Audio PEX-500
1 Maag NTI eq3
1 Maag 500 series eq?
1 Maag Audio EQ4
1 Manley Stereo Pultec
1 Neumann W491A EQ
1 Portico 5033
1 Peter C 5003
1 Slate Dragon
1 Sontec EQ
1 Sontec MES-430
1 SPL Passeq
1 SSL
1 Telefunken w695
1 TFPro P9
1 TK Audio TK-lizer
1 Tonelux Equalux
Old 5th September 2013 | Show parent
  #302
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Ben,

Thanks for taking the time to tally those up, it was fun to see.

The Ghost
Old 5th September 2013 | Show parent
  #303
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🎧 10 years
You can add another Obsidian for me. Lovin it. Thanks.
Old 5th September 2013 | Show parent
  #304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben_allison ➑️
Interesting thread! I've gone through all the posts, and to the best of my ability, have tried to compile the results. A few interesting things:

1) API, Manley, A Designs, and Kush/UBK absolutely dominated. Not even close.

2) Most people who have a Manley unit, have more than one. So, if they have a MAssive Passive, odds are, they also have a Vari Mu (and vice versa).

3) Far greater variety in comps.

4) Far greater number of comp users vs EQ (252 vs 175).

So, here are the tallies!

COMPRESSORS

20 API 2500
13 Manley Vari-Mu
11 A Designs Nail
11 Smart C2
9 Cranesong STC-8
9 Dramastic Obsidian
9 Shadow Hills Mastering Comp
8 UBK Fatso
7 SSL
6 Thermionic Culture Phoenix*
5 Daking Fet II
5 Focusrite Red 3
5 Neve 33609
5 Pendulum OCL-2
5 SSL FX-G384
5 TK Audio BC1
4 Chandler TG 12413 ZenerLimiter
4 Drawmer 1968
4 Elysia Xpressor
4 Pendulum ES-8
4 Pendulum*PL-2
4 Roll Music RMS755
4 Smart C1
3 Fearn VT-7
3 Foote P3S
3 Regular John Master Buss Compressor
3 Portico 5043
3 Shadow Hills Dual Vandergraph
3 SSL-G Series Bus Compressor
3 Vertigo VSC-2
3 Waves L2
2 API 527
2 Dave Hill Designs Titan
2 DBX 160SL
2 EAR 660
2 Fairchild 670
2 JDK R22
2 NTP 179-470
2 Rockruepel Comp.One
2 ShadowHills Optograph
2 TubeTech smc-2b
2 Vintage Design CL1MK2
1 ADL 1500
1 ADL 670
1 Airfield Liminator 2
1 Alesis 3630
1 Analoguetube*comp*
1 Atomic Squeezebox
1 BAE 10DC
1 Cartec
1 Chandler Germanium comps
1 Chandler LTD
1 Chandler TG 1
1 Chandler TG comp?
1 Daking Fet III
1 DBX 160xl
1 DBX 160xt
1 DBX 162
1 DBX 165A
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Drawmer Mk1?
1 Drawmer S3 Multiband Compressor
1 Eisen LilPEQ
1 Elysia Alpha
1 Focusrite Blue Comp V.1
1 Foote P3500S
1 Foote P4 DMS
1 GML 8900
1 GSSL
1 Handcrafted Labs Solution 2
1 JCF Lever
1 Looptrotter Monster
1 Mixbuzz500
1 Requisite L2M
1 Retro 176
1 Old World Audio U33
1 Safe Sound Dynamics Toolbox
1 Serpent SB4000
1 Serpent SB4001
1 SSL 4k Buss comp
1 SSL 9000J Buss Compressor
1 SSL X-rack G-Comp
1 Telefunken U373 BK
1 TFPro P8 "Edward the Compressor"
1 TFPro P38EX*
1 UTA Unfairchild
1 Vintech 609

EQ

23 A Designs Hammer
19 Kush Clariphonic
17 API 5500
17 Manley Massive Passive
7 Pultecs
7 Retro 2A3
5 Dangerous Bax EQ
4 A Designs EM-EQ2
4 A Designs EM-PEQ
4 GML 8200
4 Summit EQP200A
3 Amtec PEQ
3 Chandler TG 12345 Curvebender*
3 Cranesong IBIS
3 GR-EQ2NV
2 API 550
2 Avalon AD 2055
2 Avedis E27
2 Bettermaker EQ232p
2 Elysia Museq
2 Great River Mastering EQ
2 Gyraf G14
2 Harrison
2 Millennia NSEQ2
2 Sontec 250
2 Tubetech PE1C
1 AMEK Medici
1 BLA AM/CHA1 EQ
1 Buzz Audio REQ 2.2
1 Celleo Audio Palette EQ
1 CharterOak PEQ-1
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Elysia Xfilter
1 EQP1S5
1 Focusrite ISA220 eqs
1 JDK R24
1 JLM PEQ 500
1 Klark Teknik DN 332
1 LAZ EQN
1 Lindell Audio PEX-500
1 Maag NTI eq3
1 Maag 500 series eq?
1 Maag Audio EQ4
1 Manley Stereo Pultec
1 Neumann W491A EQ
1 Portico 5033
1 Peter C 5003
1 Slate Dragon
1 Sontec EQ
1 Sontec MES-430
1 SPL Passeq
1 SSL
1 Telefunken w695
1 TFPro P9
1 TK Audio TK-lizer
1 Tonelux Equalux
Thanx for taking the time Ben!

TOP 3 eq/comp combo:

API
A DESIGN
MANLEY
Old 5th September 2013
  #305
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One massive trend, when you consider all the data:

The majority of people (1/6) prefer an SSL-style comp.

The overwhelming majority of people (close to half) prefer a Pultec-style EQ.
Old 10th September 2013 | Show parent
  #306
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🎧 10 years
You can add me to the other two using a pair of API527s. Now they score higher than the Fairchild 660. BOOM!

Seriously I do like them there though. I'm sure I would like a Fairchild or two there also though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ben_allison ➑️
Interesting thread! I've gone through all the posts, and to the best of my ability, have tried to compile the results. A few interesting things:

1) API, Manley, A Designs, and Kush/UBK absolutely dominated. Not even close.

2) Most people who have a Manley unit, have more than one. So, if they have a MAssive Passive, odds are, they also have a Vari Mu (and vice versa).

3) Far greater variety in comps.

4) Far greater number of comp users vs EQ (252 vs 175).

So, here are the tallies!

COMPRESSORS

20 API 2500
13 Manley Vari-Mu
11 A Designs Nail
11 Smart C2
9 Cranesong STC-8
9 Dramastic Obsidian
9 Shadow Hills Mastering Comp
8 UBK Fatso
7 SSL
6 Thermionic Culture Phoenix*
5 Daking Fet II
5 Focusrite Red 3
5 Neve 33609
5 Pendulum OCL-2
5 SSL FX-G384
5 TK Audio BC1
4 Chandler TG 12413 ZenerLimiter
4 Drawmer 1968
4 Elysia Xpressor
4 Pendulum ES-8
4 Pendulum*PL-2
4 Roll Music RMS755
4 Smart C1
3 Fearn VT-7
3 Foote P3S
3 Regular John Master Buss Compressor
3 Portico 5043
3 Shadow Hills Dual Vandergraph
3 SSL-G Series Bus Compressor
3 Vertigo VSC-2
3 Waves L2
2 API 527
2 Dave Hill Designs Titan
2 DBX 160SL
2 EAR 660
2 Fairchild 670
2 JDK R22
2 NTP 179-470
2 Rockruepel Comp.One
2 ShadowHills Optograph
2 TubeTech smc-2b
2 Vintage Design CL1MK2
1 ADL 1500
1 ADL 670
1 Airfield Liminator 2
1 Alesis 3630
1 Analoguetube*comp*
1 Atomic Squeezebox
1 BAE 10DC
1 Cartec
1 Chandler Germanium comps
1 Chandler LTD
1 Chandler TG 1
1 Chandler TG comp?
1 Daking Fet III
1 DBX 160xl
1 DBX 160xt
1 DBX 162
1 DBX 165A
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Drawmer Mk1?
1 Drawmer S3 Multiband Compressor
1 Eisen LilPEQ
1 Elysia Alpha
1 Focusrite Blue Comp V.1
1 Foote P3500S
1 Foote P4 DMS
1 GML 8900
1 GSSL
1 Handcrafted Labs Solution 2
1 JCF Lever
1 Looptrotter Monster
1 Mixbuzz500
1 Requisite L2M
1 Retro 176
1 Old World Audio U33
1 Safe Sound Dynamics Toolbox
1 Serpent SB4000
1 Serpent SB4001
1 SSL 4k Buss comp
1 SSL 9000J Buss Compressor
1 SSL X-rack G-Comp
1 Telefunken U373 BK
1 TFPro P8 "Edward the Compressor"
1 TFPro P38EX*
1 UTA Unfairchild
1 Vintech 609

EQ

23 A Designs Hammer
19 Kush Clariphonic
17 API 5500
17 Manley Massive Passive
7 Pultecs
7 Retro 2A3
5 Dangerous Bax EQ
4 A Designs EM-EQ2
4 A Designs EM-PEQ
4 GML 8200
4 Summit EQP200A
3 Amtec PEQ
3 Chandler TG 12345 Curvebender*
3 Cranesong IBIS
3 GR-EQ2NV
2 API 550
2 Avalon AD 2055
2 Avedis E27
2 Bettermaker EQ232p
2 Elysia Museq
2 Great River Mastering EQ
2 Gyraf G14
2 Harrison
2 Millennia NSEQ2
2 Sontec 250
2 Tubetech PE1C
1 AMEK Medici
1 BLA AM/CHA1 EQ
1 Buzz Audio REQ 2.2
1 Celleo Audio Palette EQ
1 CharterOak PEQ-1
1 Drawmer 1961
1 Elysia Xfilter
1 EQP1S5
1 Focusrite ISA220 eqs
1 JDK R24
1 JLM PEQ 500
1 Klark Teknik DN 332
1 LAZ EQN
1 Lindell Audio PEX-500
1 Maag NTI eq3
1 Maag 500 series eq?
1 Maag Audio EQ4
1 Manley Stereo Pultec
1 Neumann W491A EQ
1 Portico 5033
1 Peter C 5003
1 Slate Dragon
1 Sontec EQ
1 Sontec MES-430
1 SPL Passeq
1 SSL
1 Telefunken w695
1 TFPro P9
1 TK Audio TK-lizer
1 Tonelux Equalux
Old 10th September 2013
  #307
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Warm Audio WA12s from the output of my desk, GSSL Clone and Massive Passive. Sounds big although I'm really after either a Phoenix or Vari Mu to finish off the chain. Usually do a little surgical EQ in the box too
Old 10th September 2013 | Show parent
  #308
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🎧 10 years
after hearing how much high end my Api 2500 was taking off it moved over to the drum buss and along came the
dramastic obsidian. very happy.
Old 10th September 2013 | Show parent
  #309
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Aurora Audio GT4-2 EQ
Paraline prototype compressor/limiter
Old 10th September 2013 | Show parent
  #310
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🎧 10 years
Manley VoxBox ---> Retro Instruments 176 ----> Manley VariMu
Old 10th September 2013
  #311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jumbopolish ➑️
Manley VoxBox (...)
What section(s) of the VBs are you using?
Old 10th September 2013 | Show parent
  #312
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🎧 10 years
I am a follower I guess , with one exception . Nail - Hammer - ANAMOD ATS-1 - Pendulum ES-8 . Sometime switch the nail for the SSL G BUS .
Old 11th September 2013
  #313
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I'm excited to add the Fearn VT-7 Compressor to my mix chain:
Apogee Symphony--Burl B32 Summing Mixer--Manley Massive Passive--Fearn VT-7--Manley Vari Mu.
I'm feeling very blessed!
Old 11th September 2013 | Show parent
  #314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andychamp ➑️
What section(s) of the VBs are you using?
I mainly use the pre to control the feed volume to the the 176 with the gain combination (for color) and the sweet sounding EQ. I skip the compressor and limiter sections for the master buss applications.

I just do not get that compressor at all. (I wish I could compress and push the sound but there is no knob for that!!! I guess it just one knob away from a truly amazing box... I use it while tracking though.
Old 11th September 2013 | Show parent
  #315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben_allison ➑️
One massive trend, when you consider all the data:

The majority of people (1/6) prefer an SSL-style comp.

The overwhelming majority of people (close to half) prefer a Pultec-style EQ.
true. love my ssl g comp on the mix buss. as far as the pultec thing, i find i get better results with the api 5500 and clariphonic combo. its like having a super pultec with midrange controls. and if i really need some weird curves i throw the tonelux equalux into the equation. i just find a pultec doesn't do enough for the money...
Old 18th September 2013
  #316
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🎧 5 years
Anyone here using a pair of Dave Hill Titans?? If so how has it worked out? Im also considering a Foote P3S & RPN MBP..

Sent from my SPH-L710
Old 18th September 2013
  #317
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🎧 10 years
1. Ssl compressor on my 4000E console to Fairman TMEQ

2. Ssl compressor on my 4000E console to Fairman TMEQ to Ampex Atr 102

I always record two masters so i have the tape option later, if needed.
Old 29th September 2013
  #318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by syra ➑️
Thats the one for me right there with an EQP1A pair in between the 8200 and 660s... A820 at 15ips...
These days I'm making that same chain eq wise.

I like the top end of the 8200 but I prefer the bottom and the modjo of the Pultecs.

I thought I was crazy

Best regards dear Aris.
Old 20th November 2013 | Show parent
  #319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyglover ➑️
after hearing how much high end my Api 2500 was taking off it moved over to the drum buss and along came the
dramastic obsidian. very happy.
I have experienced the same loss of high frequencies with the API 2500 but I am now having the opposite problem with The Dramastic Obsidian (losing bass & too much boosting of high frequencies).
Old 20th November 2013
  #320
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Currently back to API 5500 into HM2 Nail into RME ADI8 MK3 for ADC


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Old 21st November 2013 | Show parent
  #321
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Vertigo VSM-2 (SHMC and Avalon 2055 in the inserts of the VSM-2)- Bettermaker eq 232p- Vertigo VSC-2-Manley Slam! Mastering- UA 2192.

Rarely use all of them at once of course, and never more than 1-2 db's of gain reduction all in all.
Old 25th November 2013
  #322
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Elysia Mpressor
Old 25th November 2013 | Show parent
  #323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captainj ➑️
I have experienced the same loss of high frequencies with the API 2500 but I am now having the opposite problem with The Dramastic Obsidian (losing bass & too much boosting of high frequencies).
Experienced the same with a pair of Retro 176s. Little Loss of Low-/Boost of High End.
Old 25th November 2013
  #324
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cracki ➑️
Experienced the same with a pair of Retro 176s. Little Loss of Low-/Boost of High End.
Thats why you always need to put a pair of pultecs after the masterbus comp (2264/33609/red 3/shmc,...)
Old 26th November 2013 | Show parent
  #325
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🎧 15 years
c2 - massive passive most of the time, got good results with a fatso - massive passive too. on my last mix a compex - em eq2 was the ticket.
Old 26th November 2013
  #326
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🎧 10 years
Dramastic Obsidian or Drawmer 1968
Old 26th November 2013 | Show parent
  #327
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🎧 10 years
serpent sb 4001 or Elysia Xpressor to control the transients
harrison 32 eq
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  #328
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🎧 10 years
Fairchild 670 mk2 (with sc filter + mix control) into Api 550eqs.
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  #329
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bukarin ➑️
Warm Audio WA12s from the output of my desk, GSSL Clone and Massive Passive. Sounds big although I'm really after either a Phoenix or Vari Mu to finish off the chain. Usually do a little surgical EQ in the box too
Bukarin,

Can you describe what type of sonic texture you're achieving with the WA12's? I've seen other posts from people using them on the 2 bus and I'm quite curious. I have 1 WA12 now but will be picking up another this year.
Old 26th November 2013 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kore ➑️
Fairchild 670 mk2 (with sc filter + mix control) into Api 550eqs.
I got a pair of 550b (BTW i am actually selling them , listed on GS classifieds) but I've never tried them on the 2bus . May be i should try ? Who knows i keep it !
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