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Old 3rd June 2002
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How about this.

I'm thinking, and maybe you can help me out with this Michael,
that I need something in between my pgm out of my Dmx and my computer. This is this weeks new idea for me and I might be crazy
so don't hold back. I'm thinking moderate in price and warm, maybe even a little crunchy, in tone. Why don't you guys help me spend 2K on a good in between thingy dooty.( is that too little money for the high end forum?)

Thanks,

Oh, by the way, my last mix sounded a little flat and lifeless.
Was able to fix that with some Waves mastering stuff but thought there might be a cool box out there.
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hmmm .... a pendulum ES-8 comes to mind but a little bit pricey there .... definately in the warm and crunchy range though.

One that's on my wish list for fathersday next week is a AD-2044 Avalon ... just looked at the price ... round 2500 $

the amek 9098 range comp/lim is in that price range but I have one and am a little bit disapointed by it. and definately not "warm and crunchy" so forget about that one IMHO.

How much is a Fatso Jr. ????
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Is the Avalon going to give me the warmth and life I'm looking for??
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life yes .... warmth ..... nope .... the AD 2044 is a very transparant unit. the danger in using it is abusing it realy. it jus keeps sounding naturally good .... heavy compression can be tempting but that's not allways a good thing .... on the contrary ...

I have had one at the studio several times .... it works best on single tracks ... vocals and classical type of instruments acoustic guitars, strings .... situations where you want to compress a bit but not change the sound of a naturally good sounding instrument. My experience with it on final mixes is rather limited but from what I hear it works great on those too.
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Hello Chris

great to see you here.

Well, today I had a chance to hear the Chandler Limited EMI TG12413 at my studio. I loved it. This might be exacly what you're looking for, definitely warm, definitely crunchy. It's not your "transparent" limiter/compressor but it sure sounded great, lots of color. Not sure about the price, but I think it's more than 2K, well worth it though. What are you using for converters on the way back into the DAW?
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Hi Michael,

"What are you using for converters on the way back into the DAW?"

Well... That's the next question. Right now I leave the DMX and mix straight dig. to Pro-Tools. I guess I will have to go out of the DMX analog into whatever 2 ch. warm crunchy thing and then into a converter to get into P.T. for mastering the 2 track mix. Does this sound right?????

Again this might be obvious. Sorry.
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i am not an expert on this topic and i dont know that many units .
i have an amek , too ... and shure it doesnt colour the sound at all but imho its a great one . i have 2 adls 1000 and they are sounding good ( my opinion again ) . on the other hand , they sound like they sound , not many options to control .
you simply plug em in , thats it . they add a nice " tube "
sound to the material . more bottom , more high end and the sound feels like its getting more directness ( even if u dont use the compression at all ) .
if you wanna hear it , tell me , i can record some files with em .
i paid 2K$$ for both , dont know what the "real price" is .

maybe thats an option ???
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That sounds like what I'm looking for. More life to the mixes.
I hope that It's not my engineering skills but the fact that I'm in one huge digital path thats the prob. Although I did use some nice pre's last session on the guitars, drums and the vox and I still found it lifeless somewhat. It's taking me a long time to get used to this new gear and I'm feeling as though I might be a little slow with this dig. learning curve.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blackwater
Hi Michael,

"What are you using for converters on the way back into the DAW?"

Well... That's the next question. Right now I leave the DMX and mix straight dig. to Pro-Tools. I guess I will have to go out of the DMX analog into whatever 2 ch. warm crunchy thing and then into a converter to get into P.T. for mastering the 2 track mix. Does this sound right?????

Again this might be obvious. Sorry.

the DMX's convertors should be ok no ??? I would think you would have to go realy high end to top those ?? PSX-100 SE comes to mind or Cranesong Hedd. But that kinda stuff is expensive.

What kindof Protools are you using ?? 888/24 ? .... a lot of people don't think it a realy good convertor ... and it certainly isn't in the PSX kinda class ... but it isn't exactly a "bad" convertor either ... Protools systems, like mix with 888/24's especially improve their sound once clocked to a good masterclock device like the aardsync II or the nanosync ... hear some good stuff about the Genex ones too.

Have you tried a masterclock. if not maybe you should do that first if you're in an all diital environment. Most people still underestimate what a masterclock can do to your sound. see what it can do for the your mixes ....

the DMX is a very high end quality board and is supposed to have eq and comp on board which should be hard to beat by outboard unless going for the realy good (read often expensive) stuff. And ProTools used in the right way (read properly clocked) sounds very good.

just some thoughts



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